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Is sampling the operator’s job?

2017-06-17 View Original

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Our unit is used for methanol synthesis, and it is the operators who collect samples of the steam generated as a by-product in the drum. Is it reasonable to hold them accountable if the samples do not meet the required standards?
Reply #2 2017-06-17
Operators must be familiar with sampling. The laboratory technician is not familiar with on-site knowledge.
Reply #3 2017-06-17
The operators go to get them; some of them don’t know where to go or how to get them. The lab technicians are only responsible for conducting sample analyses
Reply #4 2017-06-17
We are responsible for the analysis; you need to know where the samples should be taken, and at which location; It’s better to be the same person.
Reply #5 2017-06-17
It depends on your company’s rules; it can be retrieved by operators or by analysts, regardless of whether it is qualified or not. In fact, it’s more appropriate for the operators to take the samples, as analysts are generally not familiar with the site; especially when taking samples that involve certain levels of risk, mistakes are likely to occur. Of course, operators who collect samples are worried about situations like yours – they fear failing the evaluations, and some even resort to cheating
Reply #6 2017-06-17
For standard poplars with designated sampling points, sampling is carried out by oneself; for those in production environments where sampling is done ad-hoc or at non-standard points, or where there is a high risk factor, sampling is conducted in collaboration with relevant parties
Reply #7 2017-06-17
Sampling should be the responsibility of the analysis center; it depends on how your workshop organizes things
Reply #8 2017-06-17
Once I went to a Sinopec plant; it was the people in charge of laboratory analysis who took samples, and it had nothing to do with the operators. At the beginning here, it was also the laboratory analysts who took the samples. There are many young girls in the laboratory analysis department (Quality Control Center), and there are many single men in the workshops. When these single men see the girls coming, they rush to offer their help with sampling. Over time, it became the practice for the operators to carry out the sampling, and this turned into a standard procedure. Now, as soon as someone calls for a sample, the operators rush over right away. :lol
Reply #9 2017-06-17
Operators must be familiar with sampling. Our company stipulates that sampling is carried out by the operators, while testing is supervised on-site.

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