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Should pipe supports be installed at the pipe racks for petrochemical overhead pipelines?

2008-03-14 View Original

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Recently, I examined the drawings prepared by the Guangdong Provincial Petrochemical Design Institute (which has now been acquired by Global), and I noticed a problem: for the petrochemical pipelines they designed, except for those with insulation for which pipe supports were used, the other pipes were simply placed directly on the pipe racks. I checked the relevant standards and found no explicit requirement to use pipe supports; however, I believe that when pipes are placed directly on pipe racks, the expansion and contraction of the pipes cause friction with the rack, which not only damages the anti-corrosion coating of the pipes but also leads to wear on the steel pipes to varying degrees. The use of pipe supports eliminates this problem. I would like everyone to discuss this issue
Reply #2 2008-03-14
Pads can be considered for use on the pipe rack......
Reply #3 2008-03-14
Yes, I’ve seen polytetrafluoroethylene slides installed on the crossmembers of pipe racks, but in their case they come into direct contact with the steel plates embedded in the crossmembers of the pipe rack – steel against steel
Reply #4 2008-03-14
Hehe, from the perspective of corrosion prevention and friction, what you say is definitely correct. But generally, if the property owner doesn’t make such a request, many of these measures won’t be taken... If you’re the property owner, you can put forward such a request.... Last edited by ssmith2007 on 2008-3-14 13:19]
Reply #5 2008-03-14
This isn’t a problem at all. It’s mainly non-insulated pipelines, which are essentially pipelines within the factory area – that is, the usual utility pipes. The thermal expansion of these pipes is very small, and there are no pipe supports; instead, round steel bars are used to fix them to the pipe racks. There are definitely some measures in place to prevent issues. Even the friction coefficient between steel and steel is only 0.3, so most owners skip this step. But if the owner really insists on adding it, there’s no problem at all.
Reply #6 2008-03-14
I would like to ask again: it is indeed the round steel bars that are used to fix the pipes to the pipe supports, but in that case, at the support points the pipe only serves for fixation and guidance; don’t the bends in the pipe restrict its lateral movement? I would also like to ask whether measures are taken at the contact points between pipes and pipe racks (such as applying butter, etc.)
Reply #7 2008-03-14
The image above shows the guide bracket, which restricts the lateral movement of the pipeline
Reply #8 2008-03-15
Petrochemical inspection manual: Pipe supports should be installed for gas pipelines larger than 600, and for liquid pipelines larger than 500. (Referring to non-insulated/cold pipes)
Reply #9 2008-09-06
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Reply #10 2008-09-06
The installation of pipe supports varies depending on the medium, pressure, and diameter of the pipes, but I believe it is still advisable to install them, as this facilitates the expansion and contraction of the pipes while also reducing wear
Reply #11 2008-09-06
Pipe supports are generally used for insulated pipes; uninsulated pipes can be placed directly on pipe racks (which must be of steel construction, and for concrete ones, plates must be embedded). But there are sloped pipes, and as mentioned earlier, pipe supports should be installed for gas pipes with a diameter greater than 600, and for liquid pipes with a diameter greater than 500. (Referring to non-insulated/cold pipes). Also, during the design process, an experienced colleague told me that pipe supports are necessary for stainless steel and alloy steel pipes. Is that correct? And why? I would appreciate your advice.

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