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What exactly is the gap between us and developed ** countries?

2012-12-21View Original

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I had often heard before that equipment abroad is very expensive, and engineering design costs there are also high. There are no concrete insights. I don’t feel anything either. I just think socialism is pretty good. In today’s terms, are you happy? I am happy. Hehe. Contentment brings happiness! I’ve been in contact with some foreign projects recently. The price of a boiler from abroad is actually more than ten times that of one available domestically. For many domestic engineering projects, equipment suppliers should also provide a certain level of on-site service. I don’t know the exact price either, but I think it won’t be much. Many of them should be given away for free. At least many of the on-site workers provided by our design firm are given for free. Foreigners can earn 10,000 to 20,000 yuan per day from on-site services, and there are also restrictions on the number of times they can do this. Currently, the fee standards for engineering design in China are pitifully low. I don’t know how it is in other industries, but in our case it’s basically a little over 1. It’s a project we worked on abroad. The design fees are still higher when handled by local design firms. I really don’t know where the gap between us lies In my friend’s words, that’s true knowledge – and knowledge is wealth! Alas! It always feels like we’re the ones who broke our own rules. Fierce competition!
Reply #22012-12-21
Fierce competition also requires opponents! I think it’s because the relevant fields do not have a voice or the opportunity to express their opinions; in other words, they have not yet gained wider recognition, and as a result, they lack competitiveness and added value.
Reply #32013-01-18
It may be related to foreign human resources
Reply #42013-01-18
It might be related to foreign human resources :)
Reply #52013-01-18
Recently, there has been a claim that design fees have decreased and bidding prices have plummeted.
Reply #62013-01-18
The level of project management in our country is mainly constrained by the project owners; their low awareness and capabilities hold back those working below them.
Reply #72013-01-28
Although foreign companies charge high fees, their operating costs are also high. The company’s labor costs are very high; not only are the salaries of designers 5 to 10 times higher than those in China, but the company also has to pay various high expenses related to social benefits for its employees. Employees work at a slow pace, and many simple tasks often take longer to complete compared to in China, which naturally leads to increased costs. Overtime cannot be allowed arbitrarily; it is mandated by law. If it is truly necessary, the overtime pay is 2 to 3 times the regular salary. Companies also have to invest a significant amount of financial and material resources in corporate informatization, and these costs naturally have to be passed on to customers. Every family has its own troubles; even with high fees, profits aren’t necessarily high either, and there’s still a lot of complaining. :)
Reply #82013-02-16
Mainly management (processes, systems, basic operational documents, standards) and technical rigor
Reply #92013-02-18
A vicious cycle has emerged in the domestic market, and the compensation system is not as well-developed as those in foreign countries; Besides, foreign countries are more advanced in technology; there are some technologies that even cannot be achieved domestically. It’s impossible to make such comparisons – that’s just the reality of our country’s conditions
Reply #102013-02-19
The key issue is the poor domestic design capabilities and standards; I think design fees are currently set too high! ! !

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