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Can the flange be selected in this way?

2007-12-02View Original

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Sometimes we encounter such problems: for example, when designing a container at normal temperature with a design pressure of 1.4, it might be okay to choose a flange with a capacity of 1.6 MPa. However, the test pressure would be 1.25 × 1.4 = 1.75, which exceeds the limit of the flange. Is this acceptable?
Reply #22007-12-02
Yes, the stress condition during a hydrostatic test is higher than that under normal use.
Reply #32007-12-02
It should be possible; the pressure required for testing is actually very difficult to achieve in practice
Reply #42007-12-02
It is acceptable to use a design pressure that is 1.15 times the operating pressure; currently, there are also designs that use a pressure of 1.1 times the operating pressure, so it is feasible.
Reply #52007-12-03
Pay attention to the material selection for flanges; for standard flanges with a pressure rating of 1.6 MPa, if Q235-B material is used, they can only be employed in applications with a working pressure of 1.28 MPa
Reply #62007-12-03
I’m not sure what standards you follow. According to the American standards we use, flanges of the 150 PSI/1 MPa class can operate at 100 degrees Fahrenheit, with a design pressure of 285 PSI/around 2 MPa; the testing pressure can be even higher. It should be noted that 1 MPa or your 1.6 MPa is merely a pressure class, and not the maximum pressure allowed for the flanges in question – this is something that many people often get confused about.:)
Reply #72007-12-03
The selection of flanges should not be done arbitrarily; it must be based on design standards, as choosing the wrong type for critical components is no small matter.
Reply #82007-12-03
Hehe, do you need to multiply the design pressure by 1.25 when designing the cylinder?
Reply #92007-12-03
1.6 MPa is a bit low; it’s better to choose 2.0 MPa as a safer option, since the pressure is significant and this helps prevent any potential harm in case of problems
Reply #102007-12-03
Sure! Our factory is currently in the testing phase, and it seems no problems have arisen!
Reply #112007-12-03
No problem; each type of device can withstand more than twice the design pressure
Reply #122007-12-03
When designing, we often choose a flange pressure class that is one level higher than the design pressure. For example, with a design pressure of 1.4 Mpa, if 1.6 Mpa is sufficient, safety considerations often lead to the use of 2.5 Mpa. Of course, this varies depending on the standards in use; the standard we follow is HG/T20592.
Reply #132007-12-03
The standard is HG20592, not HG/T20592. The pressure during the hydrostatic test: it should be no more than 1.5 times the maximum shock-free operating pressure at temperatures of up to 20 degrees. When selecting flanges, external loads must be taken into account; no margin should be left unaccounted for. The temperature of the material as determined corresponds to a working pressure without shock, which is merely a static pressure
Reply #142007-12-03
It depends crucially on design factors such as material and operating temperature; standards set by the American standard, national standards, and the Ministry of Chemical Industry provide relevant regulations
Reply #152007-12-04
The original poster’s calculation is incorrect. The test pressure is 1.75 MPa; the test pressure that a flange can withstand is equal to the flange’s specified pressure value multiplied by 1.5. This requirement is specified in the standards for \"Steel Pipe Flanges, Gaskets, and Fasteners\" – check those guidelines to understand it better
Reply #162007-12-04
The original poster’s calculation is incorrect. The test pressure is 1.75 MPa; the test pressure that a flange can withstand is equal to the flange’s specified pressure value multiplied by 1.5. This requirement is specified in the standards for \"Steel Pipe Flanges, Gaskets, and Fasteners\" – check those guidelines to understand it better
Reply #172007-12-04
When selecting flanges, the choice should be based on the design pressure, design temperature, and material. If the HG20592-97 standard is to be used, it is necessary to refer to the specifications for steel pipe flanges – temperature classes. We usually choose the time based on the material, ensuring that the maximum impact-free operating pressure at the design temperature is higher than the design pressure.

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