Discussion---Whether to cancel posting the topic post for 1 point of wealth

Agree to do this! On the one hand, it can prevent some members from posting meaningless posts! The quality of a post should be determined by the audience; if it’s of high quality, it will surely gain everyone’s approval!

Before deciding whether to cancel, take a look at these two factors: I. Negative factors: 1. Water stickers (may or may not be present)；    2. Attaining wealth through water stickers (is this amount large?) ；   3. Management costs (seem to be increasing indeed).   II. Positive factors: 1. It caters to the \"pleasure principle\" of some newcomers; if this pleasure persists (through points, highlights, and replies), then those newcomers will grow rapidly ； If this happiness is not lasting (deletion, point deductions, no replies), then newcomers may adjust themselves. I believe this is an inevitable process for many people.   2. Although this is not the best way to encourage posting, it is the most positive approach, especially for newcomers.   3. What stage has the BBS reached? One must be objective and calm; active measures should still be taken now to recruit, support, and develop new talents. This process might still take a long time, right?   4. High management costs are still better than having nothing to manage.   Therefore, this measure should be retained. At least for now, it shouldn’t be canceled.

It is recommended to cancel it and test it for a while.

It is recommended to stop operation for a while, then investigate the operating conditions, and finally consider the results of the investigation.

To add more on what 3# means: It is best not to use this method to reduce management costs. It’s a good thing when new problems arise; first, one should consider whether there are new methods, and only then should one reflect on whether the existing strategies are inappropriate.

At present, there are still very few members who post topic threads on HaiChuan. Currently, HaiChuan does not allow rewards for replies to posts; if rewards are also denied for posting topic threads, it will surely discourage the enthusiasm of a large number of lower-level members. A sea channel cannot be fully developed just with a few managers; it also requires support from more members. So I think the rule of earning 1 wealth point for posting should not be abolished; in fact, the rewards should be increased. Of course, correspondingly, once any violation-related post is detected, an even greater penalty in the form of point deductions will be imposed!

Leaving other sections aside, I suggest eliminating the practice of posting topic threads in the literature section and instead focusing on wealth-related content

Agree to cancel. Currently, normal topic posts receive a “Topic Initiation” score, and information-based posts come with rewards.

Why remove the 1 point reward for posting a topic thread? The suggestions from those upstairs to cancel it basically didn’t explain why, or maybe they thought it had something to do with water stickers. I believe everyone will notice that the real water stickers, or those of higher quality, are mostly found in reply posts; there are relatively few topic-based water stickers, and it’s not easy to take advantage of the 1 point reward for posting a topic post. Therefore, please do not fear or despise water stains, and take steps to eliminate all possible sources that lead to their formation.   Furthermore, there are also a large number of topic posts that do not receive timely attention and scoring. We cannot expect everyone to work together to ensure that every post gets timely attention and scoring; despite having such systems, it is actually impossible for us to achieve this. Therefore, by introducing the idea of \"removing 1 point of wealth for posting a topic thread,\" it is possible to cut off the source of spam posts while still ensuring that each topic thread can be rated, without establishing an inevitable causal relationship among these three elements.   With the rapid expansion of Haichuan, certain problems are bound to arise, but our management must never attempt to compensate for inefficient management practices by creating more systems.   The conclusion is: it is better to keep the current model for now. This post was last edited by weiqj on 2007-12-10 23:35]

The reply is quite representative, right? The moderators unanimously chose to cancel it.   Reckless posts made in pursuit of wealth not only increase the current difficulty of management ； Even if it sinks to the bottom, it’s not certain that it will be brought back up anytime soon; it’s still a problem.   In my opinion, if one truly needs help or wants to discuss a problem, they don’t care about whether wealth will be given or not; what matters most at that time is solving the problem and improving oneself.   If it’s high-quality material posted, there’s no need to worry about this small amount of reward; the scores obtained later will be many times higher.   This can also encourage members to participate more in exchanges and discussions, rather than focusing primarily on the transfer of information.   Some new members may not adjust well. But such members are just passersby everywhere; they take what they want and leave.   Weren’t we not aiming for a certain number of people?     That day, I suggested to the site administrator that a “Engineer Experience Moderator Tour” event be organized, giving someone some permissions for a few days to get a feel for it ； There’s no other meaning – it’s interaction.       Working backwards, if a forum section has 50 new posts per day, 20 posts that require verification, and 10 posts that need to be categorized, rated, moved, etc. (for discussions or requests for help), then over the course of a month that amounts to 30 x 30, or 900 posts ； Currently, it’s considered good if one moderator manages over 150 tasks per month; with 3 moderators, that figure rises to 450 ；   The gap appears. Then, over time. The numbers are just examples, but they are not exaggerated.   Either raise the evaluation criteria for moderators’ management frequency, increase the number of moderators, or reduce unnecessary posts. In steady development, which one is easy to achieve with few drawbacks? This post was last edited by cocain on 2007-12-11 00:38]

The opinions of super moderators and moderators should be given great attention. However, from several replies, it seems they mainly think from the perspective of the management. Therefore, their level of “representation” is limited.   In fact, between moderators and members, although cooperation is the norm, it is still a relationship of management and being managed, so competition always exists.   I haven’t counted how many new members make money by posting unnecessary posts, but it’s safe to say that even if such members do exist, they will likely realize very quickly that this is a method that yields poor results; the current shortcuts for earning points (and I emphasize that they are shortcuts) have basically nothing to do with posting unnecessary posts.   Have you made things convenient for new members? If it cannot be provided in time, let the system handle it first!   As for other opposing opinions, I think 3# has already addressed them. If you often put yourself in others’ shoes, you’ll realize that potatoes are quite extraordinary.

The moderators of each section are likely to have the most authority on this issue, as they deal with all sorts of problems related to posts on a daily basis. It would be best to take into account the views expressed by those working at the front line, combine them with the forum’s current policies, and then make a comprehensive decision.

I disagree with cancellation, as it will demotivate lower-grade students. It can be implemented in phases: students in grade 4 and above are not allowed to earn wealth by posting; they must gain wealth by helping others and participating in activities. The original rules remain in effect for students below grade 4.

I disagree with the cancellation; I feel that the disadvantages outweigh the advantages, and it will dampen the enthusiasm of some members

I think the key to this issue lies with new members, as they are those who lack resources the most. The main incentive for attracting them to Haichuan is the opportunity to get help with information and technical problems. I believe everyone feels the same way: when they first arrive, they want to download good books right away. If new members are eager to download useful materials when they see them, then it’s difficult to accumulate wealth quickly if they don’t receive timely ratings after posting their requests. That will dampen their enthusiasm. For this type of problem, I think it should be addressed through guidance and management, rather than cutting down the entire forest just because there are birds in it. Of course, this metaphor isn’t very appropriate. So, I think it’s better to keep it for now!

It is recommended to start with a few sections as pilot projects, and make a final decision after some time; it is necessary to consider whether adopting a one-size-fits-all approach might demotivate certain members

There’s no need; the reasons were already explained upstairs. However, it is necessary to establish rules for posting; points should be deducted for posts that do not comply with these rules. Only by implementing both rewards and penalties can the healthy development of the forum be ensured.

I have a question: do you care about the 1 wealth point earned by posting a topic thread? When I was new to the forum, although I really wanted to increase my wealth quickly, I never considered using the 1 unit of wealth attached to each topic post as a way to get rich. So I agree to cancel it.

It is recommended to cancel this feature; currently, 6 points of wealth can be obtained every day just by logging in, which is equivalent to posting 6 topic posts. In fact, not many people are able to post more than 6 topic posts per day.