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The problem of too many methanol projects

2007-12-19View Original

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At present, there are too many companies working on methanol projects in our country. Many units I have contacted are launching methanol projects, and they are all large projects of more than 600,000 tons. The current domestic production is insufficient, but the production capacity is in excess. After the new projects are put into operation in two years, the production capacity will* * If there is a surplus, methanol prices are bound to go down. Before my country has a clear policy on using methanol as a liquid fuel, a large amount of methanol will lose its market. The technology for using methanol to synthesize oil is not yet mature, and the MTG synthesis technology currently in use has not yet been successfully operated in China. And the investment is huge. Methanol is not used for long-distance transportation. After the output is too high, it is difficult to synthesize it after it is launched. Companies must choose carefully to avoid risks.
Reply #22007-12-19
China's development often involves finding solutions when something goes wrong. If you don't do things in a real way, you just blindly follow them. When you buy the first ton of methanol, you should think of a solution to deal with the first ton of excess methanol. Capitalism is not good, but we must learn from it.* There are too many. If this continues, how can we talk about technological innovation? It is also catching up with foreign countries. I think it is catching up with foreign products in terms of quantity! The money invested in excess methanol is not as useful as higher scientific research and development! What the Chinese people lack is this kind of development concept! Criticisms and corrections are welcome! This post was last edited by GSP on 2007-12-24 09:20 ]
Reply #32007-12-19
:) :lol :P If you count the production and consumption of methanol, you will find that there is an imbalance and less consumption. Why? Because the price of gasoline is soaring now, a lot of methanol has been secretly added to gasoline, so everyone must be careful when using gasoline in the future and don't smoke it casually with your mouth. This is very dangerous. The initial thinking of many methanol plants is * * This hole will definitely be opened, otherwise where will so much methanol go? Regarding MTO and MTP, if several projects in Inner Mongolia make significant progress, I think it will open a new window for the utilization of methanol.
Reply #42007-12-19
There is a lot of profit in adding methanol to gasoline, so this is also a big factor in the rapid development of the methanol industry, and* * There is no relevant standard yet, so there is no way to control it. Our company is also using methanol. The boss is pursuing efficiency, and efficiency is the first priority. * * It would be better to introduce regulations for adding methanol to gasoline as soon as possible.
Reply #52007-12-19
Briefly described as follows: 1. Traditional methanol downstream products are affected by the business cycle of chemical products. In the next five years, there will be an average annual growth of 8-10%. 2. China’s energy substitution policy may have to choose the path of alcohol ether fuel. Based on the current national gasoline consumption of 50 million tons (which may reach 60 million tons this year), if 15% of methanol is added to gasoline according to M15, 7.5 million tons of methanol will be needed, which is equivalent to the total production of methanol in the country this year. It should be noted that approximately 1.5 million tons of methanol enter gasoline every year, which is a "fact known to everyone on earth." 3. China’s energy situation is “short of oil, low of gas, and relatively rich in coal.” With the improvement of the national economy and people’s living standards, the demand for ethylene and propylene has also increased. * * Increase, when the petroleum route cannot meet the demand, it is a realistic choice to solve the problem by installing new MTO and MTP devices. This will be the largest market for methanol in the future. 2 million tons of olefins will consume approximately 7 million tons of methanol. 4. The replacement of liquefied petroleum gas and natural gas by dimethyl ether will also show a "blowout" development in the next five years. 5. At present, new methanol projects are put into operation one after another, but the price of methanol has experienced changes of 2000-2500-3000-3500-4000. This is the best answer from the market. This post was last edited by zjyang168168 on 2007-12-19 16:32 ]
Reply #62007-12-19
Although some people are worried about the development of methanol, the actual situation is that oil is becoming increasingly scarce and oil prices are getting higher and higher. It is inevitable to add methanol to oil every year. However, the standards should be determined and the engines should be vigorously improved to meet the corresponding standards, just like the current diesel engines and gasoline engines.
Reply #72007-12-20
Very good. Many feasibility studies on methanol projects now say that there is a surplus but it is still available. Maybe these are the reasons. It is true that the price of methanol is rising, but we need to look at the problems in the next 2-3 years. After the new production capacity is put into use, we will see the price drop. The overheating of the coal chemical industry deserves attention and macro-control.
Reply #82007-12-20
I personally think that there are not many methanol projects now. Based on the following considerations: First of all, because I am optimistic about the prospects of "methanol chemical industry" using methanol as raw material. At present, "methanol chemical industry" and "petrochemical industry" are already somewhat interchangeable in some product chains. Moreover, several large methanol projects on the Internet are actually preparations for the subsequent "deep processing" of methanol. ; There is still a huge market gap for domestic methanol, and a large share still needs to be imported. Even if all these new projects are put into production, there will still be market space. ; The application of methanol-based fuel will become more and more popular, especially when the domestic fuel supply is insufficient and the automobile market continues to be booming.
Reply #92007-12-23
Haha, in my humble opinion, methanol is not a problem. If you can capture coal, you will be the winner.
Reply #102008-03-16
I think this is needed* * macro-control, expand domestic demand, and develop downstream methanol products: Encourage exports to earn foreign exchange.
Reply #112008-03-17
Methanol is not a problem, if you can capture coal, you will be the winner! Agreed! ! !
Reply #122008-03-17
I am optimistic about methanol, and our company is also developing methanol. Energy will definitely become more and more tense in the future! !

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