What are your thoughts on several large methanol projects in the country?

Selling methanol directly will certainly have a significant impact on the existing market, but it is feasible to produce products with a large market scale using methanol as a raw material. The several projects that use coal as the starting material for methanol production aim to produce olefins, and from the perspective of the olefin market, this seems to be a good approach, especially routes for producing propylene like those used by Datang. However, based on the information available on the forum, there are no major issues with the process from coal to methanol; but subsequent steps such as converting methanol into olefins and polymerizing those olefins are likely to face numerous technical challenges. After all, this is a completely new approach, and there is no existing large-scale industrial MTO-olefin polymerization process to serve as a reference. Last edited by yucc on 2007-12-23 11:16.]

There are many downstream products of methanol. If MTO and MTP technologies fail, one can turn to options such as acetic acid, dimethyl ether, and MTBE

I’ve heard now that **the use of natural gas to produce methanol is not recommended, as this will inevitably affect the methanol industry**

As an important raw material for C1 chemistry, methanol holds great promise. After all, as China’s macroeconomy continues to develop, the demand for basic chemical raw materials will increase steadily. Given the limitations associated with oil sources, I believe the route involving coal, methanol, and chemical products is very promising.

Using methanol to produce olefins, switching from aerobic to anaerobic conditions – can this be considered green?

In fact, these newly launched large-scale methanol projects may have a significant impact on the domestic methanol market in the short term. However, this is also an inevitable trend in the development of a market economy; the growth of any industry progresses from small to large, from a modest scale to a larger one. The expansion of methanol projects can encourage companies to seek new paths for development and broaden the scope of downstream products related to methanol in China. Moreover, larger-scale methanol projects contribute to more effective and rational use of energy as well as better environmental protection, which is beneficial for the long-term development of China’s methanol industry.

Most methanol plants do not produce methanol as their final product; instead, they use methanol as a raw material to manufacture downstream products, which essentially represents an internal loss. Therefore, it should have little impact on the methanol market; instead, attention should be paid to the downstream products of methanol. . .

In fact, a large portion of it must have been consumed as fuel! Don’t you all think the current price of methanol is ridiculously high?

Looking at the current new dimethyl ether projects, such concerns might be unnecessary.

Could those large methanol projects be just a cover to exploit coal?

Interest is the only driving force; whether it is **personal interest, collective interest, or interest of any kind, every decision is made based on interest.

With so many methanol projects, the only outcome is severe overcapacity and falling prices; this is also the main risk facing the development of coal chemical industry at present. Only by resolving the technical challenges related to large-scale utilization of methanol in downstream applications can we say that the coal chemical industry has entered a period of growth

Large-scale methanol projects contribute to the advancement and upgrading of coal chemical technology in China, and are of great significance for diversifying China’s energy sources and reducing its over-reliance on international oil. At the same time, they lead to a reshuffle among domestic competitors, creating conditions for phasing out small-scale facilities with outdated technology and high energy consumption, thereby promoting technological progress across the entire industry.

Could someone provide an overview of the detailed progress of Shenhua and Datang?

Expand the downstream applications of methanol, expand those downstream applications further, expand them even more beyond that............

Once the project to use dimethyl ether as a substitute for diesel is completed, demand for methanol will increase dramatically. Many companies are already building large coal bases in regions such as Inner Mongolia in preparation for this change, and an oversupply is inevitable at that time. Moreover, the environmental damage caused by excessive mining cannot be ignored.

Regarding this question raised by the original poster, my first reaction was, “Why not consider using methanol for power generation?” ”Once it becomes technically and economically feasible, a vast methanol market will surely be created. My post titled “Is it feasible to generate electricity using methanol from an economic and technical perspective?” is currently under discussion. Please come and leave your comments; I would appreciate any advice you can offer. From an economic standpoint, a preliminary analysis suggests that it might be feasible in the coastal areas of East and South China, especially in the Pearl River Delta where electricity prices are relatively high. However, further discussion and verification are needed. Technically, I rely on the guidance of experienced professionals, senior students, and teachers to provide constructive suggestions. I hope these ideas can be made feasible, thereby addressing your concerns. http://bbs.hcbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=159549