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Prevent valve branding

2007-12-29View Original

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Valve counterfeiting is a troublesome issue; some manufacturers of low-quality valves label their products with the names of reputable brands in order to sell them, which is truly despicable. Additionally, sales staff from reputable brand manufacturers collude with these low-quality valve makers to carry out such practices. How can companies find simple ways to ensure that they do not end up purchasing counterfeit valves?
Reply #22007-12-29
Find a reliable valve manufacturer for long-term cooperation
Reply #32007-12-29
One must also strengthen inspections and establish penalty measures to make them realize that making mistakes comes at a cost
Reply #42007-12-29
Price reflects quality; when making purchases, don’t insist on lowering the price. Good quality items aren’t cheap, and cheap items aren’t of good quality.
Reply #52007-12-30
Valve OEM is a common practice, which includes producing products at lower costs under the guise of higher-quality ones, or producing high-quality products under similar pretenses. As we have seen, a well-known domestic high-pressure valve company has been commissioned by foreign brand owners to carry out OEM production in accordance with API standards; this is feasible as long as the quality meets the specified standards. An effective approach is to form partnerships with reliable manufacturers for targeted procurement. However, some current procurement models that rely on selecting the bidder with the lowest price ultimately harm oneself; even when contracting with brand-owned factories, it is difficult to guarantee the quality of the end product. Furthermore, we have also observed that many large valve manufacturers currently use a consignment sales model, which adds another layer of complexity to the origin of these valves
Reply #62007-12-31
Branding valves is not necessarily a bad thing; what matters is the quality of the valves A British company I’m aware of has valves manufactured under contract in China, which are then sent to the UK for quality inspection; those that pass the inspection are sent back. The price, well, it increases by at least six times. What does it indicate? It’s not that China lacks the capability to manufacture high-quality valves; rather, it lacks the appropriate quality inspection methods! Of course, what’s still missing is the right attitude toward domestic products! Of course, the service for domestic products also needs to keep up
Reply #72007-12-31
It is still necessary to establish long-term relationships with fixed manufacturers; the two parties should set up a mechanism for mutual trust, as well as engage in mutual visits and inspections
Reply #82007-12-31
I think the most important thing is to communicate more with industry professionals
Reply #92008-01-09
Such things are actually very common. Not only in China, but many manufacturers abroad do the same thing as well: they place orders in China, have the goods shipped abroad, then attach their own brand to them and sell them back in China, thereby doubling their profits. Since they dare to use our products for sale, it shows that there’s nothing wrong with OEM manufacturing; what’s important is the inspection process. As long as your products pass the inspections, they are considered qualified. Therefore, since preventing OEM manufacturing is impossible, we need to ensure that quality control is thorough
Reply #102008-01-09
I’ve seen this many times: when the valve body is opened, it’s clear that it’s a J41W-16C valve, but the label attached to it reads J41H-16C. Anyway, those in charge of inspection don’t understand the difference between H and W.
Reply #112008-01-23
It is stipulated in the purchase contract in advance, and moreover, the quality control standards of those large manufacturers are very strict; even when producing products under a private label, the quality does not decline significantly
Reply #122008-01-28
Branded valves are actually something that every valve manufacturer does, as there are so many different types of valves. No manufacturer dares to claim that it makes all valves itself. There are basically two reasons for purchasing low-quality branded valves: paying too little for them; one should not always try to lower the price when making purchases – good quality products don’t come cheap, and cheap products aren’t of good quality. If manufacturers supply products made in their own factories, they will incur losses or earn no profit. Another reason is that buyers opt to purchase through agents; many manufacturers now allow agents to apply their own brand names to these products, which makes it difficult to control the quality. Therefore, it’s best to avoid purchasing from agents.
Reply #132008-02-01
I’d like to introduce a method for identifying OEM-manufactured valves: Many manufacturers engrave their own logo on the valve body (the cast part) using relief carving. OEM manufacturers, after purchasing these valves, usually remove this logo by grinding it away. If the valve body is made of stainless steel (even if it has no paint on its surface), it’s easy to spot a section in the upper middle part of the valve body – which is where this happens most often – that has a color different from the surrounding area; that is the result of the grinding. :loveliness:
Reply #142008-02-01
To be honest, the quality of those counterfeit valves isn’t that bad either; they pass the pressure testing, haha. Trust the people
Reply #152008-02-01
Yes, as the leader mentioned, this situation is quite common these days and is a widespread phenomenon. This issue has drawn the attention of the **special equipment safety supervision authorities; that’s why valve manufacturers in various regions are required to obtain safety registrations and permits before they can carry out production. Otherwise, such companies are considered to be operating without proper licenses. However, the valve industry faces various problems, including differences in the size of companies and varying levels of competence among their employees. Another practical issue is that no company, no matter how large it may be, is able to produce all types and models of valves independently. In order to retain customers, some companies exaggerate their production capabilities when making promotions, which leads to various problems. What the leader mentioned is just one such example. As someone who has been serving customers for a long time, I often ask them to be honest – if they don’t produce a product themselves, they shouldn’t use their own brand name or label it as their own product. To be continued...
Reply #162008-02-01
What era is this anyway! Nowadays, manufacturers that produce valves under custom orders incorporate the logo of the client who ordered them during the valve-casting process. The practice you mentioned only occurs when there are a small number of valves needed or when the delivery deadline is tight. As the friend above said nicely, “To be honest, the quality of counterfeit valves isn’t that bad either; they pass the pressure testing. Ha ha, trust the public!” After all, it’s not as if you’re buying the valves for your own use! If it were your own factory that needed valves, I wonder if you’d even consider using custom-made ones. Even if they pass the pressure testing, what about their performance in actual use? Most valves are used in chemical industries and power plants – what if something goes wrong? What if people get hurt? Trust the public??? If it were your own factory, I wonder if you’d dare to buy such valves!
Reply #172009-05-11
In many cases, due to corporate regulations, one does not have the authority to purchase valves directly.
Reply #182009-05-11
The quality of fake valves isn’t that bad???? It’s far from it! ! ! !
Reply #192009-05-12
OEM manufacturing has its advantages as well as disadvantages! The advantage is that it allows for the provision of products with good cost-performance ratios. The disadvantage is that manufacturers might, in an effort to secure more orders, opt for lower-quality products in order to win those orders. Therefore, when making purchases, one should not focus solely on price; instead, it’s important to learn more about the company
Reply #202009-05-12
The best approach is to find the manufacturer and purchase directly from them
Reply #212009-07-13
Increase penalties and quality inspection measures, and include on-site supervision as a contractual clause to be enforced through the contract

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