Talk about keeping experience confidential as well
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I’m a newcomer; I’ve been working at a private company for half a year, dealing with process simulation calculations. I remember when I first arrived, the company gave me a software called PROII; “Install it and learn it slowly.” ”This is my first time working with PROII. At first, I really didn’t know where to start. Fortunately, during the three-month trial period, I wasn’t asked to do anything; I just had to learn about the software and read books. There is a senior employee in the company; I can ask her questions about PROII, and although she doesn’t know much herself, she tells me whatever she does know. There’s also a chief process engineer; I heard he’s quite skilled. When I ask him questions, he keeps avoiding them, saying that he’s never done it himself and doesn’t understand it either! The company also hired people from design firms to carry out simulations. What they sent over was just one result, but there were two pages at the beginning containing some input information – not all of it, but still enough. I printed that out everything and went through each piece of data in order to try to create a simulation. I’m sorry; I’ve just started using these tools, and sometimes I’m not familiar with the software at all, so I simply can’t do it! I wonder if this information is kept secret outside as well? Are software simulation techniques not easily shared? So how should newcomers like me grow? Just figure it out by yourself in front of the computer? God, it’s such a waste of energy and time, and we don’t even know if it’s right or wrong. I think many people encounter these problems. What do you all do? What should I do then? Is the slow development of the chemical industry also related to the low level of resource sharing and experience exchange (compared to the computer industry)? I hope everyone will come and discuss it. :L
There’s nothing much that can be done about it; it mainly depends on whether your company has a mature training system in place. If not, one can only rely on personal effort. Of course, you can go to Haichuan’s engineering software section to download tutorials for learning. But in the end, most of the time, one has to depend on themselves
Pity! Everything is difficult at the beginning; take your time! Everything will be fine!
Hehe, those software training courses are extremely expensive; some of them are even just basic training. It’s through these that those who sell software make their money... If the company refuses to invest, then one has to work hard on their own... Actually, since a design firm has been hired, electronic files for the input and output of PROII in softcopy form can be requested. Many client contracts specify such requirements
To varying degrees, I just stole the techniques, haha
I still have to rely on myself; it took me a week the first time I tried to calculate constant pressure and vacuum distillation, and I’m not even sure if the results are correct. Through my own experimentation, I’ve also discovered some tips; I think these tips are just as good as those used by experienced craftsmen! It will converge soon. Hehe!
I should strive to surpass my masters; what they do is completely wrong
It’s also possible that your so-called expert really knows nothing at all :) Don’t always think of things in the worst light; those are just your own assumptions, and the reality might not be like that :) Learning software isn’t that difficult; there are plenty of resources available in Haichuan District to refer to, so you won’t necessarily progress slowly. Be more confident in yourself
We all improve ourselves by constantly exploring and learning on our own!
You can seek help on forums, but ultimately you still need to rely on yourself
It’s difficult; competition in society is fierce these days, and everyone tries to hide their true abilities in order to get a job. So it’s quite normal that no one wants to teach you. Especially in foreign and private companies, there may be even fewer people willing to talk about it. State-owned enterprises and design institutes might be better?
Having just graduated from school and started working, don’t think that skills or professional knowledge are the only things that count as competence. In fact, for a recent graduate, the most important thing is to learn how to communicate with others; one must find ways to get others to teach you. At the very least, they shouldn’t refuse when you ask for help. Take your time – there’s still a lot to learn.
There is a lot of information available online on this topic, but without an appropriate environment, the learning process is slower and more effort is required. It ultimately depends on each individual; in fact, the more one learns, the better one will become at it. The key is to keep exploring, to keep studying diligently, and to never stop learning.
Hehe, since the company doesn’t provide training, one has to figure things out on their own. After all, the company isn’t a school where there are people dedicated to teaching you. You need to search for information and learn by yourself. Also, communicate more with your colleagues; I think they might not know the answers to some questions, or they might not deliberately keep that information secret from you~
It’s the same in all cases: the older workers are afraid that newcomers will take their jobs, so they naturally try to keep those positions for themselves. It’s up to the newcomers to observe more and think more on their own
I agree with the original poster’s view; it’s not easy for us newcomers at the start, so we need to work harder
It’s not easy for newcomers. It’s not easy to build trust. It is precisely a lack of trust that leads to such problems. The older people think, \"I’ve taught you everything; what am I supposed to do now?\" It’s the result of societal conditions. Rely on yourself and be smart. As long as the goal of learning is achieved, any means can be used... You figure it out yourself
Thank you all! ! I’ll try my best :)
Put it another way, it’s only right not to tell you; can you guarantee that once you’ve learned it, you’ll still act as you do now and not compete with him? This kind of problem is very practical. One of my mentors never taught anyone anything; he said that technical knowledge should be taken only to the field, and not taught to anyone else. Hehe! ! Have you paid a price for learning from others? ? Is your cost proportional to someone else’s guidance? In your future work, won’t you be in competition with him anymore? ?
Communicate more; on the forum, we can share what we have and learn together to improve.
It’s by constantly exploring and learning on one’s own that one can improve oneself!