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The same valve director, technician, and squad leader all have different command switches. Which one should the main controller listen to?

2008-01-05View Original

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The small instrument air valve is used for the boiler position. During the driving process, the director, technician and squad leader all gave instructions. As the main controller, the last command was given by the director. However, because the driving was very busy, the squad leader did not know that the last command given by the director was wrong. As a result, the air at the boiler station instrument was interrupted and the system shut down again due to insufficient steam. At the accident analysis meeting, the director said that he could not remember it. The technician said, just do whatever I want you to do. Are you a brainless controller? The monitor's final rebuttal had nothing to do with him. The controller finally asked everyone, whose command should I obey? ? /
Reply #22008-01-05
Who listens to whom! Don't listen to anyone who says you are wrong. Adjust it after you understand it. If something goes wrong, you don't have to bear the responsibility of anyone else. This principle is the same all over the world.
Reply #32008-01-05
Listen to your superiors, the people who directly command you, and the people who supervise you. You can tell them and ask them to tell your direct superiors.
Reply #42008-01-05
If you do the right thing, no matter who you listen to, you will be fine; if you do the wrong thing, no matter who you listen to, you will be held accountable! There is no other way but to leave it to fate!
Reply #52008-01-05
You should listen to the squad leader. The craftsman has no right to command you directly. In fact, you should believe in yourself, you are the master, no one is more familiar with the device than you!
Reply #62008-01-05
What the previous brothers said makes sense. In actual production operations, there are so many situations like this that you can encounter them with your eyes closed. Brothers, to quote Zhao Benshan, except for the direct leadership, you can only "fool" everyone and agree with your lips, but you have to do what you actually do. The right thing, no matter the situation, is good for you. If the wrong thing is not signed with a black pen, no one will admit it in the end, and you are still unlucky!
Reply #72008-01-05
It can be seen that your start-up organization is quite chaotic. As the main controller, you should have your own opinions and make judgments about the arrangements made by your superiors. If they are right, they can be implemented. If they are wrong, you should argue with reason and express your opinions. Otherwise, if something goes wrong, it won’t be the fault of who is in charge, and it will be difficult for you to escape responsibility.
Reply #82008-01-05
When driving, you should follow the "Driving Operation Ticket". The operation ticket has been strictly reviewed and reviewed step by step. The operator is not responsible for operating according to the ticket. This post was last edited by zhlfwxx on 2008-1-6 08:40 ]
Reply #92008-01-05
You have to make your own judgment and direct appropriately. Operating procedures should be strictly implemented, and temporary emergencies should be reported to the direct leader.
Reply #102008-01-05
Under normal circumstances, you need to know how to open the valve. If everyone comes to give the command, you must listen to the director, because if someone makes a mistake under anyone's command, the responsibility will definitely be borne by the operator, but the punishment is decided by the director. If the director makes a mistake in command, although he will not admit it, he will know better when making the punishment decision, and the punishment will be lighter. And at any time, if there are many leaders coming to give orders, you must listen to the highest-level one. Although there are clear regulations that you have the right to refuse illegal orders, but if you really refuse the leader's orders in person, you will understand in the future that you have done a stupid thing.
Reply #112008-01-05
Under normal circumstances, the main control should listen to the squad leader, and the squad leader should listen to the main responsible person appointed by the workshop, whether it is the director or technician, whoever is responsible. Their evasive words are very irresponsible. However, as the main controller, you should have the ability to distinguish between right and wrong, and you can ask questions or request written orders when executing orders.
Reply #122008-01-05
According to the regulations, the main controller should listen to the squad leader, and the supervisor and technicians do not have to listen to the instructions given by the supervisor at different levels. Of course, if the squad leader violates the rules and regulations, he may not listen to the squad leader's instructions and report the situation to the squad leader's superior. In fact, to be able to be the main controller, you should be very familiar with the operating procedures and be able to make correct judgments on whether the above commands are correct. If you cannot make a judgment, even if the person commanding is wrong, as an operator, you should also bear the corresponding responsibilities.
Reply #132008-01-05
The supervisor should listen to the squad leader because he is your direct leader. However, the squad leader listens to the craftsman and the director. When the craftsman and the director come to make arrangements, then you should agree, report to the squad leader immediately and ask the squad leader to confirm your execution, so that no one will be offended. Even if something happens, the squad leader will take care of you from the front. In order to have an explanation, the directors will give a relatively light punishment even if the mistake is punished. In most cases, it will be ignored.
Reply #142008-01-05
According to regulations, you should be responsible for your squad leader; According to authority, you should obey the command of the top leader ; When it comes to technical guidance, you should listen to the technician’s advice ; As for whether their command is right or wrong, as a controller, you should have your own judgment. If you can't figure it out, you should communicate with the three commanders' suggestions and make a correct judgment. As long as it is not wrong, no one will hold you accountable for the command you followed. If you make a mistake, even if you listened to the director's command, you will still be questioned, because it is clearly stated.: Put an end to illegal commands. So this man, you are right to come to Haichuan. You must learn more and at the same time learn to be tactful in your work, because you have to remember: The first level of officialdom crushes people to death. When you become the boss, you will be able to appreciate the benefits of being a big official.
Reply #152008-01-05
Put an end to illegal commands. You are very incompetent as the main operator. 1. The main operator should have driving and parking skills and be very proficient. ; 2. Based on your production experience, you should be able to identify ; 3. When the opinions of the three parties are not unanimous, you should deal with it calmly, learn to be diplomatic, strengthen communication, and make sure the communication is correct before proceeding. ; 4. You are the direct production executor of the accident and you should bear relevant responsibilities. Right now: Not resisting means accepting.
Reply #162008-01-05
This is a common situation encountered by enterprises. I have encountered it many times. No matter who you listen to is right, you will be fine. No matter who you listen to is wrong, the responsibility is yours. This situation is very serious in state-owned enterprises. As an operator, you are working. If you are right, you will be fine. If you are wrong, you are responsible for it. In the entire operation, you must have your own operating method and your own flow chart, so that you are very clear about what you should do at each step, so that you can avoid being wronged. If you don't listen to the director, he is the leader, and if you make him angry, it will be difficult for you to deal with it in the future. The technicians and monitors are the subordinates of the leader. If you don't listen to them, they will say bad things about you in front of the leader, or bite you when they meet the leader, and it will be very difficult for you to deal with it. This is the difficulty of the operator! :L
Reply #172008-01-05
We must strictly and conscientiously implement the operating procedures! How to operate, how to report and ask for instructions, and how to give instructions are all included in the regulations. The rules are the law!
Reply #182008-01-05
This question is just like what the classmate on the 9th floor above said. For the start-up and shutdown of the equipment, first of all, each position should be familiar with the responsibilities of their position and the specific conditions of the start-up process. This should be clearly explained in the daily shift handover. Regarding the director, craftsman, or squad leader, whose orders should you listen to? The squad leader should listen first, because the other two do not have the right to command you beyond the level, but it is obviously unrealistic to do this in a state-owned enterprise, so someone upstairs said "fooling", this is a tactic, but I personally think Communication should be achieved, that is, if anyone gives you any instructions, you should promptly notify your direct leader - the squad leader. If the squad leader encounters a direct order from the director, he should promptly feedback the director's order to the craftsman, and then pass it on to the staff on the job. When encountering some emergencies, it cannot be said that you have to listen to the squad leader's instructions, but they must communicate with each other. This will avoid having to deal with problems on your own, and also avoid accidents caused by unfamiliarity with the actual conditions of the device. In fact, for production equipment, there will be a shift handover meeting every day. Technicians and directors must participate in principle, and technicians should know the handover of work tasks on that day. For example, what tasks are done on the shift, what has been completed, and what has not been completed must be clearly stated. The squad leader's handover diary and the post handover diary must have detailed operational records. Then the workshop management has a working meeting. The director assigns the tasks to the craftsmen, who then assign the tasks to the squad leader. The squad leader arranges the positions and takes notes at the same time. Basically, the individual should be primarily responsible for the problems on the first floor. I have had direct conflicts with leaders because of conflicts between morning meeting arrangements and actual work, and I had to argue with reason at critical moments. Having no independent opinion can only mean that you have no confidence in your work or are not skilled enough.
Reply #192008-01-05
You still have to have the ability to judge~~
Reply #202008-01-05
Keep good records, it is best to have phone recordings, my experience: When principles must be spoken, stand on the side of truth ; If there are no principled issues, just listen to the latest instructions (but tell the leader who has already given instructions and if he wants to change, you can listen to him, but be sure to make notes or audio recordings). Hello leadership unity ; If the leaders are not united, then they are going to fight and it has nothing to do with you. No matter how hard you try, it never works! !
Reply #212008-01-05
  This happened in my unit as well. This is indeed a fact in the chemical industry. We can treat this situation as a potential safety hazard, which belongs to the category of unsafe behaviors of people. As the main controller, you should perform according to the requirements of the operation ticket and operating procedures. This is the only way out!   We ourselves should also reflect on whether there is a similar situation in directing production!

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