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Discussion on Professional Title English and Professional Titles

2008-01-09View Original

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The requirements for proficiency in English in the current oil industry are quite strict; it serves as a barrier for obtaining professional titles. Young people don’t have any problems with this, but experienced workers who have been working for over a decade still can’t pass these tests no matter how many times they try. As a result, their income becomes very low, yet they still have to take on the most important tasks. Is such a situation fair? Is English that important? Why do unreasonable issues persist, while reasonable ones don’t last long?
Reply #22008-01-10
Hehe, what the original poster is complaining about is that this kind of phenomenon isn’t limited to the oil industry; it exists to varying degrees in various sectors. It might be a way to motivate employees to work harder, or it could be a consequence of the reforms and opening up. At present, various regulatory systems are still in the process of development, and perhaps this situation will change in a few years. After all, everything develops and progresses through twists and turns
Reply #32008-01-10
To be honest, English is generally not necessary, unless you are working on projects that involve foreign-language materials; even then, a level equivalent to CET-4 or CET-6 only allows one to have a basic understanding of such materials. Professional English is indeed of no use – in my opinion, it serves merely as a way to urge us to learn a foreign language, with no real practical value. I think I saw relevant regulations there; aren’t those with longer working experience exempt from the exam? But it’s useful to learn more English. Many good articles on the Internet are available in English, and without a basic understanding, we can’t appreciate what’s good about those articles, and thus we can’t learn from them. Especially these days, when there is frequent contact with foreigners, and many manufacturing equipment is imported, it’s not possible to rely on translators for technical discussions all the time; it’s better to be able to understand some of the language, and even better if one can express oneself. Generally, those with a level of 4 or 6 in English can understand a lot, which is certainly helpful in various ways
Reply #42008-01-10
Hehe, the **exam economy – it can support many people! A threshold is still a threshold; it’s actually very simple – you don’t need to score 60 points, 30–40 points is sufficient. You don’t even have to finish all the questions; maybe the original poster is just a person who strives for perfection!
Reply #52008-01-16
This phenomenon is too common! I don’t think it’s of any real use
Reply #62008-01-16
Proficiency in English for professional purposes is just a stepping stone; genuine English competence is what ensures a lasting career.
Reply #72008-01-16
Have you all heard the story of a mouse mother teaching her little mice? Learning a foreign language is very useful! Just joking. In the oil industry, if one is solely involved in domestic storage and transportation projects, professional English proficiency is not particularly useful. However, to keep up with the latest technological advancements in this sector, to access foreign-language materials, and to communicate with foreign technicians, the level of proficiency required by professional English tests is far from sufficient; one must study on their own. The high standards mean that the vast majority of people fail these tests, and those who do pass may not necessarily have the skills needed to take on important responsibilities. In light of this, it can be said that linking professional titles to professional English proficiency is essentially pointless!
Reply #82008-01-16
I think this is a trend, a direction that encourages progress; just like the requirement to speak Mandarin, it is beneficial for the development of **
Reply #92008-01-16
I agree with the opinion of the brother from floor 6! One’s own choices, one’s own positioning – and more importantly, one’s own efforts!
Reply #102008-01-16
The English test for professional title evaluation is on the right track; it can motivate those who need to obtain professional titles to learn English in the future. Learning English is not for going abroad; it’s useful here at home as well. It may not be needed all the time, but it plays a decisive role at critical moments. For example, many of our devices utilize international new technologies and equipment; many imported devices on site are equipped with labels indicating prohibited operations or providing guidance. Having a basic understanding of English on site allows one to understand these instructions and avoid mistakes, which may prevent accidents.
Reply #112008-01-16
I fully agree with the original poster’s opinion; it’s indeed not very useful and also requires a lot of effort. It’s better to focus on mastering skills properly, as it’s still possible to achieve success in using the Chinese language. So you too must use unreasonable methods to deal with this unreasonable situation. . That’s cheating. . . The difference between the intermediate and advanced levels of the Professional English Test lies in the translation task; everything else is exactly the same. . There are 24 people in one examination room, with 24 different exam papers. Actually, the content of the test paper is the same; it’s just in a different order. Never copy from the side. If you have to copy, copy from the exam room next door where someone has the same number as you. . Good luck. . . .
Reply #122008-01-16
Exams are not the goal; they are merely a method, a way to encourage everyone to study. The most advanced technologies are all in E-form; one should learn more* and keep improving. Rules are necessary to maintain order; this too is a kind of standard that can reduce certain types of operations.
Reply #132008-01-18
Learning a foreign language for professional purposes is a way to encourage managers to learn foreign languages. Just imagine that one day you have reached a high level of management skill and enjoy a good reputation; then, when foreigners ask you to share your management experience and you bring along an interpreter, isn’t that quite nice?:loveliness:
Reply #142008-01-22
The purpose of foreign language skills for professional titles is to assist in obtaining such titles; they are rarely used in everyday life. Translation is needed for international negotiations and communications, otherwise all Chinese technicians would know foreign languages, and those majoring in foreign languages would end up unemployed. Translation software can be used to help with looking up information; therefore, as long as one graduates from university, a basic level of foreign language proficiency is sufficient to meet job requirements
Reply #152008-01-26
Taking the English test for professional title evaluation is frustrating; it should serve as a criterion, not as a means of control
Reply #162008-01-26
A score of 30–40 is sufficient for the exam there; things are quite strict here
Reply #172008-01-28
Isn’t there a rule stating that older employees don’t need to take an English test?
Reply #182008-11-06
Professional English tests also operate on a planned basis, but such requirements are still useful for us, the younger generation; at least they represent a means of learning. Of course, the current procedure for professional title exams is another matter; just like other similar exams, they are mostly nothing but a formality with no real meaning
Reply #192008-11-06
How is 30-40 enough? ? I haven’t heard of that. . .
Reply #202008-11-06
It is stipulated that those from before 85 or before 1988 do not need to take the exam
Reply #212008-11-06
Professional English is not that important, as it doesn’t have a significant impact on one’s work performance. However, professional titles are crucial for individuals, not only in terms of salary but also regarding retirement benefits, welfare, and dignity. Everyone is aware of this system, but everyone still has to strive to pass the relevant tests. With such support and friends who help each other, it should be easier to pass the professional English tests

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