Discussion: Personal views on improving the quality and influence of HaiChuan
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Discussion: Personal views on improving the quality and influence of HaiChuan 1. The positioning of HaiChuan: the most professional chemical industry forum. In the forum discussions section, harveychen has already initiated such conversations; recently, the number of forums’ sections has increased, and their specialization has become more refined, with an apparent ambition to cover all aspects related to the chemical industry. Personally, I feel that many engineering disciplines have similarities; there’s no need to divide them into too many detailed categories. If you look at some newly established areas, they are busy at first but gradually see a decline in activity. Additionally, there have been recent discussions about the launch of a leisure area. We can see that the forum’s task discussion section is quite active. To be honest, this section should be visited mainly by beginners or administrators; other members, especially those who are technical experts, don’t need to visit it frequently. If you have any suggestions for the forum, you can simply send a message to the administrators. The HaiChuan Chemical Forum should be a highly professional forum, focusing on resource sharing and the exchange of technologies and experiences, aiming to attract more chemical industry professionals through a high-quality technical forum. 2. Issues with technical staff: Recently, the team of technical staff at HaiChuan has grown larger and now numbers nearly 500 people. Perhaps in an effort to attract more professionals, the requirements for joining this team have been lowered. With such a large workforce, the management standards are not adequate, and the quality of the technical staff varies greatly; many of them fail to set a good example, or even have a negative impact. Technicians should possess two qualities: first, they need to have certain professional knowledge and practical experience; second, they must be enthusiastic and willing to help resolve related professional issues. We don’t need people who join the technical team out of vanity or for power, and those who make no contributions over a long period of time should be removed by the administrators—there should be no leniency in such cases. Furthermore, approval requires strict scrutiny; Friends of Haichuan and several super-editors discuss the matter together, considering it carefully based on forum records, preferring to skip applications rather than accept substandard ones. 3. Improve the quality of the forum. The level and influence of a forum should not be limited merely to discussions, exchanges, and resource sharing among users. Although these topics make up the majority of the forum, staying trapped in such a circle will not be very helpful for increasing the forum’s influence. If a forum wants to enhance its influence and quality, it must have its own unique features, that is, the essence that has been refined over time. First, the purpose of communication is improvement, but where lies the path to improvement? It lies in summarization. Each section of the forum needs to summarize the best content from its own area, compiling outstanding discussion posts and representative resource posts. Just as the cleaner suggested before the New Year, it’s possible to create a newsletter for each section; there’s no need for all newsletters to be uniform. The technical team plays a key role here – the moderators take charge of organization and coordination, while the technical staff is responsible for collecting and organizing the material. By compiling and editing the best content from the forum over a period of time, it’s possible to attract more people to participate, engage in discussions, and improve their skills. Secondly, I saw on the Xiaomuchong forum that the chemical engineering section publishes a chemical engineering journal at regular intervals, based on contributions from its members and after proper organization. Although the intervals between publications are long, it’s a good approach that worth emulating. The purpose of communication is to improve, and the way to achieve improvement lies in summarizing—one’s own past experiences and knowledge as well as those of others—and ultimately integrating them into one’s own systematic body of knowledge and experience. Therefore, HaiChuan members can write good articles based on what they have learned from their work and forum interactions; this is not only a shortcut to improvement but also a sign of their own progress. Therefore, we should encourage members to publish their own articles and to summarize the opinions expressed on the forum, in order to improve both the members themselves and the quality of the forum. Instead of just hanging around on forums, acquiring only fragmented knowledge and experience without achieving any notable accomplishments. Perhaps some people are unwilling to share their excellent articles on our forum for now; we can wait until our forum has developed to a point where it’s worth their while to post there. Perhaps the section will be quiet at its inception, but we have over 100,000 members from various sectors of the chemical industry across the country – don’t these people possess unique insights into areas such as chemical design, manufacturing, inspection, installation, production, and management? At the HaiChuan Forum, there are many experts in the chemical industry. After members share their experience summaries, these can be reviewed and improved by various experts, which is likely to lead to significant improvements. Additionally, for some good articles, it is possible to suggest that members organize them into the form of papers and submit them to relevant journals; surely there are members who have connections with these journals and can recommend them. Of course, this is based on personal experience; if one submits work to a magazine for publication, it involves the issue of plagiarism, and there’s a risk that someone else might get there first, especially regarding sensitive topics. Therefore, restrictions should be imposed on the access rights to HaiChuan journals. It is recommended that members who intend to submit articles provide their real names, affiliated institutions, and contact information, which can then be stored by the administrators for reference. In the event of plagiarism or infringement, it will provide a basis. These are merely preliminary suggestions that require discussion and negotiation among everyone; it would be best to establish relatively comprehensive rules. As for how to implement them, everyone’s input is needed. 4. The number of HaiChuan members is increasing rapidly, but most of them only focus on that little amount of information, merely aiming to download it before leaving. To be honest, some of them can’t even answer questions properly (that might sound harsh). Recently, the scoring criteria have been quite lenient, and inflation is high; yet some members still feel it’s not enough. I ask: have you really read the forum rules? It only takes ten minutes to go through them, which would yield significant results – in fact, many new members fail to do this. I think Hai Chuan doesn’t need such people either; you go to the forum just to get information – what have you done for the forum? What have you done for the many other members? Can you download a book, upload a book, or give a suggestion or ask a question on the spot? No pain, no gain. Is it possible to earn money on this forum by relying on one’s own skills and abilities? Forums are less realistic than reality, but when establishing the rules of the game (forum rules), self-interest is always given priority over fairness; one must not be lenient when strictness is required. The above are merely my preliminary thoughts; there are certainly errors and imperfections in them. I urge everyone to discuss them and offer suggestions to promote the healthy development of Haichuan. As Haichuan grows, we can also strengthen ourselves. I am for everyone, and everyone is for me!
Is inflation caused by the fact that money keeps flowing out of the forum but not in? The value of the forum can only be recovered by downloading materials, right? Does that mean there are fewer and fewer people downloading materials these days? The original poster is right: “Can you download a book, upload a book, or give a suggestion or ask a question on the spot?” No pain, no gain. Is it possible to earn money on this forum by relying on one’s own skills and abilities? ”But in reality, if you register an ID now and do nothing but collect red envelopes every day, you’ll be able to download it anytime after a short while! I think red envelopes and salaries are the main causes of inflation, not ratings! Therefore, I suggest abolishing the daily red envelopes and reducing salaries, while increasing the wealth required to download materials, in order to curb inflation. Ordinary members can only acquire wealth through their own hard work, that is, by earning ratings. In this way, one must earn wealth by uploading materials, asking questions and making suggestions, as well as helping others solve problems. Only by enriching these three aspects can the forum enter a positive cycle. How many actual members are there? I took a walk around today and noticed that HaiChuan has over 110,000 registered members, but only 47% of them post messages. My understanding is that 53% of members have never posted? ? ? ? ? ! ! ! Is that so? It’s terrible! ! ! We should take a look at what these 53% of members are doing and why they aren’t posting ! A post about kicking down buildings can receive over 24,700 replies; with an average of 100 replies per post, that means 247 people have participated in the discussions. I doubt any professional post can reach such a level. What I’m trying to say is that the top priority now is to increase popularity and boost member enthusiasm. It’s true that Haichuan should become a professional forum for the chemical industry, but it’s important to remember that too much clarity leads to no fish, and excessive scrutiny results in no followers. Therefore, it’s necessary to consider the needs of the general public and know how to create hype – skills that are often lacking among those working in the chemical industry, yet are essential for running a successful forum. Personal opinion!
The daily red envelopes will be released in installments, with a certain interval between each installment
The original poster has summarized it perfectly; after starting with oneself, one needs to hurry up and learn more
I agree with the original poster’s suggestion: red envelopes must be reduced to prevent inflation, otherwise it will just be an illusion of prosperity. Strive to turn HaiChuan into a professional forum for the chemical industry! rather than a data distribution center.
I agree with the views of the two lecturers. Around New Year’s Day, when the decision was made hastily to give up that UID, I registered an account named “penicillin”. Over a period of 10 days, aside from posting 3 non-technical/communication-related replies in the posts on Building T (to verify that random red packets were linked to online time), I hardly used posting as a way to earn points; as a result, my charm level reached 37 and my wealth totalled 284. It’s basically enough to cover 50-100 pieces of organized technical documentation. Although encouraging the majority of members to participate in rating is a success, the forum’s currency – wealth – is obtained too easily. The reason for wanting to leave over and over again is that there are many current phenomena and countermeasures that I simply do not understand. I really envy the friendly atmosphere that existed in the forum in its early days. Back then, one could say, “There’s a group of friends on xx Forum”; nowadays, one can only say, “xx Forum is fine (because it has lots of rules)” – this last part is omitted here. Now, even the moderators who are supposed to set an example dare not speak casually. It can be seen that there are advantages to being large, and there are advantages to being small. I think those who truly care about the forum are more concerned about its long-term viability and sustainability; temporary success is nothing but fleeting. And the futility of trying to stop an unstoppable force is an irreplaceable kind of exhaustion. Respected forum administrator, where do you intend to steer the ship of this forum? Although there are many things beyond one’s control, at least one should have a personal goal. This is the most important content of the communication. This post was last edited by Icetide on 2008-1-15 09:24]
I agree to issuing a newsletter regularly for each section~~That’s a great idea~ It will help to organize the management team and the technical team effectively, allowing them to work together to achieve good results. It seems that at present there is still some disconnect between the management team and the technical team (especially the members of the technical team); everyone does their own thing. Although they each have their own responsibilities, they all share the common goal of making the forum better. For the sake of this goal, it’s important to communicate more with one another, just as in a project. So, issuing a newsletter is indeed a very good idea. Here’s a suggestion: each section should create a journal. Technical teams who sign up to participate can gather materials (regular members can also take part), and once these are prepared, they will be evaluated by the entire forum, with experts serving as judges. Evaluations are conducted on aspects such as layout design, technical quality, and practicality, and awards are given to the production teams of high-quality journals. By adding wealth in this way, one feels secure and experiences a sense of achievement. Aside: Penicillin was originally an overprint. . . . Sweat. This post was last edited by iamsunyue on 2008-1-14 22:20.]
Could we consider including the evaluation by moderators as a factor for some team members?
It is recommended to release a compilation of HaiChuan discussion threads every six months; this would truly represent the essence of HaiChuan. If these compilations are shared and uploaded elsewhere, that’s also fine – such sharing helps to promote HaiChuan. At the same time, the names of those who have left interesting contributions in the discussions will also be remembered, hehe. Secondly, regarding the members of the technical team, there should be clear principles for selection. In reality, factors such as personal relationships and reciprocity might play a role, but the internet gives us an opportunity to promote those who are capable and to demote those with poor performance, thereby cleaning up the forum environment and fostering a positive atmosphere on HaiChuan. Regarding deducting points, I used to be cautious about deducting points from members – was that because I wasn’t sticking to my principles? Or giving members an extra point and granting them a three-day deadline for making changes: is such an approach conservative, or should it be considered lenient? I’m a bit hesitant. Later, seeing that there were too many repeated posts, I actually deducted some wealth from one or two members, without thinking about how those who had their points deducted would feel. Hehe, thinking about it now, deducting points is necessary; if a forum has such a feature, there must be a reason for it – otherwise, that feature would be removed. So I think, in addition to giving extra points, we need to consider the issue of deducting points as well (it’s normal for this to cause dissatisfaction). Should the technical team members be assigned to one area or several areas? As for salaries, those who work more should be paid more. The technical team members need to be categorized: those involved in process-related tasks should fall under process management, while those involved in civil engineering tasks should be under the management of the designated moderators. It’s important to make it clear who are the technical team members under each moderator’s jurisdiction. As for the engineers from Haichuan, I don’t think there are any with low levels of competence; perhaps they too should be included. Categorization is a good approach. This post was last edited by qiaowei037 on 2008-1-15 at 23:40
Are the technical team members also assigned to one or several specific areas? As for salaries, more work means more pay. Technical team members need to be categorized: those involved in process-related tasks should fall under process management, while those involved in civil engineering tasks should be under the supervision of the respective moderators. It’s important to make it clear who the technical team members are under each moderator’s jurisdiction. What the person above said makes sense! As for whether the technical team members in each section are fulfilling their duties properly, I believe moderators can get a general idea just by looking at the number of replies they post!