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To what extent has China’s machinery industry developed? Everyone is welcome to participate in the discussion!
This question is too broad and general. . . . .
Chinese machinery has reached a similar level of development: funk: :funk:
China’s machinery industry is still quite poor. I once saw a post on a forum where the author said that he and his colleagues spent several weeks – the exact amount of time isn’t specified, but it was definitely a long period – studying blueprints and relevant materials in order to improve the machining precision of a CNC machine to the micron level. It was a Japanese machine tool. The author lamented that it took so much effort to use it barely, and even then it didn’t achieve its best performance, yet it was created by the Japanese. It’s easy to imagine just how big the gap is. It feels like Shenzhou 6 has gone into space, but in fact the basic industries are still very poor. Like some machinery factories in the country, they still work in unfinished buildings, using simple tools to manufacture equipment in rooms filled with oil and dust. For installing machinery, work is still done by pulling with ropes and hitting with hammers. The accuracy is imaginable. The gap is huge, guys. In fact, the gap between us and others right now is just as large as it was during **war times – we have swords and spears against their guns and cannons; it’s just more hidden, making it harder to detect. . Brothers, it depends on everyone’s efforts. . May our motherland be better tomorrow. . I hope everyone will pay attention to the basic industries. . . . .
Confessions of an engineer with a monthly salary of 1,500 yuan: When I and the craftsmen at the factory worked day and night to improve the precision of the CNC machine tools, translating German technical documents in the process, when I went through countless difficulties without any vacation or overtime pay, covered in dirt with injuries all over my hands, and failed numerous times before finally managing to produce a sample that met the required precision of 0.0001 millimeters for the first time, I felt excited for a while. But soon after, I felt disappointed, because the CNC machine tool in question was made in Germany; its control computer system was also German-made, the processing software was German-made as well, and even the cutting tools and drills were Japanese-made! Apart from the factory buildings, not a single tool is made in China! Even the factory buildings were designed with reference to foreign experiences. Fellow countrymen, those of you who are not involved in this work may not have a deep understanding of it. To manufacture a part with an accuracy of 0.0001 millimeters, the tools required are those manufactured abroad, and the precision of these tools is several times, or even dozens of times or hundreds of times, higher than that of the product itself! A small drill bit used for high-precision machining – we simply can’t make that! It costs several thousand yen for the Japanese one! There’s nothing I can do. Don’t get complacent just because you know some fashion software like Photoshop; a full set of legitimate PRO/E software costs nearly 5 million yuan! I’m giving it to you, but you can’t even install it, let alone use it. What’s the difference? A few years ago, when we were in college, we watched the news in the hall of our school; representatives from each department were there. When the TV showed that Japanese university students had created a robot that was taken to Germany to compete with robots made by German university students, the students from our mechanical engineering department were stunned. That robot was the kind that can walk on its own by maintaining balance on both feet, but it didn’t have any outer shell. Those of us in this field could immediately see the controllers, motors, and wires all over it. The camera showed the robot performing actions on its own – doing backflips with its hands, bowing at 90 degrees, and jumping forward with its feet. Students and teachers from other departments smiled and said, “It’s so fun, it’s adorable!” But while we were surprised, we also felt genuine… fear! The real fear is that the gap is simply too large; this is the result of achievements in manufacturing, automatic control, and materials science. I hate Japan, and that’s why I’m afraid. Laypeople don’t realize just how large this gap is. Let me put it this way: if a war breaks out and China’s manufacturing industry still has such a significant gap compared to other countries, then you and I will be forced to fight with nothing but guns and rifles. This isn’t an exaggeration; although we can engage in reverse engineering, it’s similar to Taiwan buying weapons when the mainland produces its own weapons – it’s not useful at all. It seems that society these days is placing more and more emphasis on industries that do not play a crucial role in the country’s economy and people’s well-being – things like real estate development, computers, software, and business. It’s fine to succeed in these areas, but when a few people drive up housing prices ever higher, such ways of making money are nothing to be proud of, I tell you! To put it simply, it’s immoral! Computers have become widespread, but how much do we really know about core manufacturing technologies? Not to mention software – there are many hackers, and yet that software is both good and cheap. How can you compete? There are too many people who work with computers! Don’t think that all science fiction movies are true; in reality, computers don’t fight battles – it’s machines that are actually involved! The gap between computers isn’t that big. In a battle, when missiles miss their targets or stop working, and tanks fail to function, there’s still me, there’s everyone else – we’ll have to charge forward with swords. I don’t want to do that. What about you? Don’t get dizzy at the sight of fancy cars. Leaving aside the question of what kind of value these girls in their early 20s have to offer in order to afford modified Hummer SUVs, if we look into the past, how many wealthy people in China didn’t build their fortunes through illegal means? And how many of them can claim that they never acted against their conscience? The richer and more capable one is, the greater the responsibility to contribute to the people. Look at the current situation in China: how many wealthy people prefer to buy cars manufactured using technology from ten years ago in Japan just to show off in front of their fellow citizens, rather than investing their money in society – after all, what comes from the people should go back to the people Do foreigners go out of their way to show kindness whenever there’s a flood? They have their reasons; they don’t compare the quality of foreigners with that of their own people, and instead they consider the quality of their own citizens to be low. Whenever I see foreign cars, I feel guilty and sorry for everyone, because I work in the manufacturing industry; yet I know that it’s already difficult in our country to achieve precise surface finishing on car bodies, let alone develop engines. Grow up already, wake up! Stop being obsessed with the fact that GDP has increased again. Look at the quality of the products we produce – it’s heartbreaking! Stop acting like ignorant children by constantly staring at sports cars, and stop showing off foreign-made digital products such as ultra-thin portable players – those are technologies that have been phased out. The backbone of any country is its manufacturing industry! Over the past 200 years, I don’t know what the future holds; in any case, the current situation won’t change. Don’t think that being able to make money is a skill worth pride. When someone shows off how many luxury cars they’ve seen, how many properties they’ve sold, how many web pages they’ve designed, or signatures from certain famous people, I admit those are the results of their hard work, but I dismiss them as unimportant. I judge a person’s ability based on whether they truly create real value for society and whether they genuinely improve productivity. Although I spend my days working with cold machines, using complex 3D design software to create drawings late into the night, and my monthly salary is only 1500 yuan, wearing outdated clothes that aren’t in line with fashion trends and not knowing who’s popular these days, I still take the bus to work. But when asked about my situation, I’ll tell them everything without hesitation, regardless of how they look down on me. Because I work in mechanical manufacturing and automation – as a worker, as someone who strives to ensure that missiles are accurate and high-quality, and that tank engines are unparalleled – I feel proud, even though my salary is only 1500 yuan.
When I was in school, our teacher told us a story like this. It was probably some time ago; China purchased a gearbox from Germany, and after getting it, they tried to manufacture one of their own. What they produced looked exactly like the original one, but it wouldn’t turn at all, whereas the quality of those imported gearboxes was quite good. Every time I read about that incident, my back would get cold continuously. This post was last edited by chiansdjtyjz on 2008-1-18 at 14:19
Let’s not talk about the high-tech industries in the country; they are well-known. Instead, let’s discuss ordinary manufacturing industries – those characterized by low technology, high labor costs, and low prices, and it’s a situation that requires making compromises. Can there be high-tech products at low prices? It is difficult to improve the level of the manufacturing industry. The current bidding process is a game, and it’s something in which the Chinese people deceive themselves.
Yes, it’s time to admit the gap! But the difference in views between those who play games and those who work in technology is much greater than what should be admitted!!!
Tendering! Let’s issue a tender! Compare prices! Let’s compare prices!
China’s manufacturing industry is at least 50 years behind that of other countries. Alas, what a sad situation when it comes to learning about robotics! ! !
:Handshake: Acknowledge the gaps, work together, starting with me.
There’s already a big difference, and Chinese people are used to comparing themselves to others, to making horizontal comparisons; as a result, they end up with a vague answer that suggests things are more or less the same. That’s how people who deceive themselves behave. Don’t blame others; really, it turns out that we ourselves still haven’t done enough——:@ :@ :@
It also depends on how the national industry develops, and on what kind of policies are in place