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The poster dug many pits by the sea, intending to plant trees there; a great many people are needed to water and support them, so that greenery can surround the seas and rivers and make everyone feel comfortable here. So please discuss what kind of water is beneficial, and which ones fall into the category of harmful? Can we, through our efforts, establish an appropriate range for irrigation activities to benefit everyone and the forum? If you disagree with this, you can also say so. Pooling ideas is beneficial for everyone. Thank you! Also, when posting, could you be more concise? That would help those below understand your intentions better and respond positively. This post was last edited by yunanshu on 2008-1-25 13:58.]
The nine sons of the dragon each have their own distinct characteristics. An inclusive attitude should be adopted toward this phenomenon; it is sufficient to determine whether they intend to spread false information or content that is unrelated to the topic. Their unique ideas should be respected
The OP’s question is very good; allow me to divide it into 3 questions: 1. What is a water post?; 2. What is malicious spamming? ; 3. How to deal with (1) and (2). 1. What is a water post? In technical discussion forums or technical posts, those whose content has nothing to do with technology and that consist of garbled characters, numbers, letters, symbols, etc., offering no readable value and thus wasting readers’ time, are likely to be spam posts; they can also be considered malicious spam. Taking the original poster’s topic post as an example, if replies contain words like “good” or “upvote”, does that count as a low-quality post? Yes, it does ; But is it malicious spamming? Not necessarily, because he might indeed be complimenting you; in that case you need to check his posting history or style further. 2. What is malicious spamming? Obviously, there is a big difference between harmless posts and malicious spam; for harmless posts, it is recommended not to deduct points, but rather to give reminders or guidance. And malicious spamming will definitely result in point deductions. Taking the original poster’s topic post as another example, if the replies contain malicious attacks, irrelevant postings, rude language, etc., then this constitutes malicious spamming. The most prominent feature of malicious spamming is probably that it wastes readers’ time while also being an insult to the content being read. 3. How to deal with (1) and (2). If it’s possible to distinguish between the two, then it’s up to you as a moderator to decide what to do. I just checked, and the forum really doesn’t have any definitions in the strict sense of spam posts or malicious posting. Probably because these phenomena are often very complex, I believe your subjective judgment is accurate. By the way, don’t be too forceful. Regarding spam posts and malicious flooding, what I said isn’t good enough to be considered a definition. Mainly, a few new moderators sent me messages a few days ago, wanting to chat casually; please forgive them. Additionally, I have a suggestion for moderator 2#fengerjiaer: when someone helps you, you must remember to at least reply to them. I would like to extend my greetings once again to the several new moderators in this area. By the way, tomlhq, ygx2000, and workinging in this area are experienced members; I hope everyone will help one another. Wishing everyone a happy New Year.
Thank you to those who participated and offered help above. In fact, when replying, as long as one adopts a learning attitude and responds carefully, it should be beneficial – both for oneself and for others.
In my opinion, posting or replying with content that falls outside the forum’s guidelines or goes against its purpose, disrupts the order of the forum and its environment, hinders others from contributing to, managing, or sharing resources on the forum, or whose content is unrelated to the topic being discussed or involves malicious attacks, as well as use of offensive language or nonsense, all constitute spamming behavior
Are there any good ways to standardize the quality of replies? Try to avoid the occurrence of the above situations. Everyone can discuss it. :handshake
Basically, the content of the reply should be consistent with the topic. Furthermore, whether what is said is right or wrong, good or bad, it’s best to avoid offensive language; it’s all for learning and improvement!
This discussion will never reach a conclusion, quite simply, because everyone has different standards, and it is difficult to define standards that cannot be quantified. Watering has never been labeled as something malicious from the start; it is an intermediate process. It’s only when we refer to malicious watering that we *inhabitually omit the word ‘malicious’, which leads to confusion. After all, no one uses the term “kindness spamming”. Therefore, the definition of spam in general forums is essentially aimed at malicious spamming. Generally speaking, if there is one main post and one reply, and the content is brief, it is likely to be classified as malicious spam. Why, the person upstairs saying things like “Good” or “That’s great” might be offering sincere praise from the bottom of their heart. It’s just a possibility. It’s like in a meeting, when someone puts forward an idea and everyone agrees, but no one explains why it’s good; then how can you tell whether those people are just going through the motions or truly approve of it? It’s hard to tell, but I think someone who genuinely praises or agrees with others’ views must be able to point out what’s good about it and why. When replying on a forum, why be stingy about typing a few more words? There are others as well, whose meaning is neither concise nor explicit. Answering a question that isn’t being asked, or providing a response that has nothing to do with the topic at hand – there’s no need to say more about whether this constitutes malicious spamming. It doesn’t matter if what you say isn’t perfect, as everyone has different levels of knowledge and strengths; what’s important is whether you are focusing on the topic being discussed, as well as considering the limitations of one’s own ability to express oneself. So this kind of reply should be aimed at those who say something else in someone else’s post. . . However, such posts exist in a marginal position; if things go well, that’s fine, but if not, they are likely to be classified as malicious spam, and the possibility of that is quite high. Being serious isn’t a bad thing; it allows everyone to think before speaking. This will at least reduce a lot of meaningless replies. I clearly remember my colleague, who frequented this forum, telling me something very serious; I didn’t know what to say each time and dared not speak carelessly. Although this might somewhat dampen people’s enthusiasm for active participation, those who do participate are definitely promising candidates. . . . Because he knows what to say and what he can say; he avoids talking about things he is not familiar with or does not understand. . The quality of natural irrigation also improves. . So, rules always have their advantages as well as disadvantages; the key is to determine where the focus of development lies. PS: Malicious attacks don’t need to be discussed, nor can they be classified as mere malicious spam; however, such behavior is rarely seen on technical forums.
What was said upstairs is right. To make it easier to find and view useful responses and save time for friends, could some posts that are not meaningful be deleted?
The suggestion from upstairs is great; in this way, it won’t take as long to flip through the pages. However, it seems like the moderator’s task isn’t easy at all. I still hope to get everyone’s support so that this can be realized as soon as possible.:victory: :victory: :victory:
As long as it is related to the topic and expresses genuine feelings, it’s not a meaningless post!
Thanks for the reward from the moderator. Deleting some posts that are not truly meaningful is indeed a good suggestion, but it’s not easy to do. Not to mention the huge workload for moderators, determining which posts are not meaningful is also tricky, as there’s no way to quantify or standardize such criteria. It’s unclear whether deleting posts will affect members’ points (it seems the new rules state that this won’t happen). If it does affect points, problems are more likely to arise. There’s also an issue of fairness here: if you delete certain types of posts, you must delete similar posts from that section as well, otherwise it might lead members to have other thoughts. . I guess I’d better not delete it unless it affects the server’s load. If the forum administrators deem it necessary, they might as well establish standards for malicious spamming first, and then implement them across the entire forum or in some sections, thereby fostering good habits; gradually, the atmosphere of the forum will improve. As for those who are looking up information and checking the posts, it shouldn’t be too troublesome either. For example, in cases where the uploaded files are scattered, it’s possible to mention in the main post how many files there are in total and on which floors they are located. In this way, those who search will be able to look for things in a targeted manner. . Additionally, I do not recommend deleting posts. Moreover, Haichuan is not merely meant to function as a database; active discussion is what should prevail. There should not be too much strictness regarding spamming, as this could have negative effects.
To determine whether it is a spam post, one should check whether the content of the post is in line with the purpose of the forum. As for replying to posts, some people simply respond with emojis or just a single word like “thank you”; such responses have no real meaning and should be considered spam. :) The forum is a place for everyone to communicate – it might be about technical topics or more casual subjects. As long as people feel that posting and replying helps them get to know each other better, I think any type of post is acceptable. After all, people have different levels of knowledge and different ways of understanding issues; therefore, there’s no need to judge posts as being meaningless just because of that! :$
Why water the forum? In the past, doing so could increase the number of posts and boost one’s points, but now it offers no benefits, which is why few people engage in malicious posting online – after all, time is precious. Personally, I think as long as one does not use abusive language or violate the law, it’s fine; “Thank you/Good/Upvote…” might be expressions of agreement or gratitude toward the poster, and constitutes benign posting. Since joining the forum, I’ve uploaded quite a lot of material, but out of fear of being considered to be posting excessively, I rarely reply. Here, I would like to thank those who share materials. There are many benign posts in this section, and it is these “non-essential posts” that enable us to communicate better in a relaxed atmosphere :) This post was last edited by Yan Dian Qing Tian on 2008-1-27 at 13:40
That’s true too; when someone gives you something nice, it’s only right to return the favor by saying \"thank you.\" At the very least, this will make the person who gave you the gift feel good, otherwise they might feel neglected and think there’s a lack of kindness. Could you send a text message to express your gratitude?
Personally, I think this is a good approach – saying “thank you” through forum messages shows your gratitude, and for the person who is being thanked, it also conveys sincerity. Since regular thank-you posts are often labeled as spam, their value and significance get overshadowed by such spam posts, and the sincerity of those who post thanks is thus called into question.