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I’d like to ask everyone! Do you think a team really needs both a team leader and a technician?

2008-01-29View Original

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In state-owned enterprises, a typical team usually consists of a team leader and a technician; there may also be a subgroup leader or an acting team leader. In my opinion, for daily production activities, one team leader is sufficient, as the person who can serve as team leader must be proficient in the operations and technical aspects related to that team. During times when it’s not shift time, a subgroup leader or an acting team leader is present at the production site. Therefore, I think it might be possible for one person to hold both the roles of team leader and technician, which would help save manpower. What are everyone’s thoughts on this?
Reply #22008-01-29
I’m not quite sure what you mean. Our organization is structured in stages according to the workflow: there are technicians in charge, and we operate on a 5-shift, 3-shift rotation system. Each shift has a shift leader, and then there’s the team leader you mentioned – someone who works during the day shifts and is responsible for managing all matters related to the people on shift. In fact, technicians are considered to be managerial staff, while team leaders are generally seen as people without formal education but who are good at handling matters other than managing employees’ work, such as distributing items, arranging vacations, and organizing shift swaps. After all, those tasks can’t possibly be left to the technicians to handle
Reply #32008-01-29
We operate on a three-shift system, with a shift leader in each shift. The team leader on the day shift is responsible for monitoring and organizing daily production activities. We submit reports to the workshop once a week, outlining plans for raw materials, maintenance tasks, arranging staff shifts and breaks, and distributing monthly bonuses to team members. In my opinion, the team leader is responsible both for personnel management and technical aspects. The technicians I’ve encountered are generally tasked with drafting operating procedures and batch production records, as well as handling the distribution, collection, and archiving of such records; it seems that one team leader can handle all these responsibilities.
Reply #42008-01-29
It should be possible for a team leader and a technician to hold both roles simultaneously, but in some organizations the team leaders don’t really understand the technology; they only rely on empirical methods for working, and often they are popular among others due to that. So it’s necessary to “analyze specific problems specifically”: lol
Reply #52008-01-29
Using both a team leader and a technician in one team is a complete waste; one team leader is sufficient to manage the team members as well as the production process, handling everything on his own. It’s the same here; each team has between 10 and over 30 members.
Reply #62008-01-29
The organizational structure mentioned by the poster seems different from that in ordinary chemical production workshops. In typical teams, there are a team leader and an assistant team leader; technicians do not work directly on the production line – they are responsible for the technical aspects of the entire manufacturing process. As for the team supervisor, it’s not clear what role that is; could it be equivalent to a manager of a specific production process or section? It isn’t necessary to have one such supervisor for every team
Reply #72008-01-29
The poster’s assumption is that it’s in a state-owned enterprise; state-owned enterprises are inherently bloated and have too many employees – many of them are actually unnecessary, so it’s not a matter of whether they can be reduced or not. This is a **policy issue: employment. So no matter how many people there are, jobs still need to be provided, for the sake of social stability
Reply #82008-01-29
Not necessarily; technology and management are two different aspects. There are also omnipotent people. But it’s still not enough, so organizations that have the means create these two positions, with each person focusing on their own area of expertise, thus avoiding chaos.
Reply #92008-01-30
Agree with the second floor. Our company is in a similar situation. Technology and management are not the same.
Reply #102008-02-21
For the teams in the auxiliary workshops, we usually have a team leader and a team technician, but in my opinion, one team leader is sufficient; the team leader should understand technology
Reply #112008-02-21
Our unit’s chief supervisor oversees several junior supervisors; their role is to handle various production-related matters as well as personnel issues and to prepare production reports. They have all risen from the rank of workers and possess little technical expertise, so they still need technicians when faced with production-related technical problems
Reply #122008-02-22
There are no technicians in our team; only the team leader is present. I don’t think it’s necessary to have technicians in each team, unless it’s a very large installation with many issues.
Reply #132008-02-22
State-owned enterprises are just complicated. It’s no big deal – a bunch of people giving orders, but few actually doing the work. There are numerous positions and roles. In other words, a team leader should be a versatile person who not only understands manufacturing processes but also knows how to control quality and adjust production; in addition, they should have some knowledge of equipment maintenance as well. A team leader who cannot do such things is not really a team leader at all. It is also a failure in corporate management. They need so many useless people there, plus team leaders and technicians.

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