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Does the same compressor produce more gas in summer than in winter?

2008-02-18View Original

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Does the same compressor produce more gas in summer than in winter? It was a question in the exam in our workshop; using the formula PV=NRT, P remains constant due to process requirements. So in summer, as T increases, V increases, while in winter, as T decreases, V decreases. However, due to the property of air expanding when heated and contracting when cooled, I think that according to another formula for ideal gases: PV/T=P1V1/T1, the volume of gas delivered remains unchanged in both summer and winter! Yet the answer given by the workshop was affirmative! Let’s discuss this! !
Reply #22008-02-18
On the contrary, more output is achieved in winter than in summer; low temperatures in winter increase the volume of inflation, making it the ideal time for manufacturers to boost production. This post was last edited by 147258 on 2008-2-18 16:40]
Reply #32008-02-18
The volume of the compressor’s cylinder remains constant; if the temperature drops, then N in the equation PV=NRT increases, which means that the volume of air compressed by the compressor increases. This is why the compressor compresses less air in hot summer temperatures and more air in cold winter temperatures.
Reply #42008-02-19
What was provided in the workshop is incorrect. When the compressor is operating at full load, the volumetric flow rate of the gas output remains constant; however, the lower the temperature, the greater the density of the gas per unit volume, which in turn results in a higher mass flow rate per unit time. Therefore, during winter when temperatures are low, the gas flow rate is definitely higher than in summer when temperatures are high. Additionally, lower temperatures help to reduce the power consumption required for compressing the gas, as well as enable the gas valves to operate more efficiently over longer periods, thereby helping to lower the temperature of the gas before it reaches the next stage (compared to summer)
Reply #52008-02-19
I agree with what was said on floors 3 and 4; generally, the compression volume of the compressor in winter is 8% to 10% higher than in summer, which is consistent with the results obtained through the calculations outlined on floors 3 and 4.
Reply #62008-02-19
First, the inlet temperature of the gas turbine decreases, causing the density of the gas to increase; second, as the temperature drops, the partial pressure of water vapor in the gas decreases.
Reply #72008-02-19
I understand the analysis you’ve provided. In other words, even though the temperature is very low in winter, the compressed gas still has a temperature higher than what is required by the process, so cooling is still necessary (this is exactly what happens in our case). This shows that a decrease in temperature increases the density of the gas. However, this positive effect of increased density on the compressor’s gas delivery capacity does not offset the negative effect of the lower temperature on that same capacity; as a result, the gas delivery volume increases significantly throughout the process! Thank you all! ! This post was last edited by huangye on 2008-2-19 11:20]
Reply #82008-02-20
No, your workshop hasn’t taken into account the relationship between gas temperature and density! ! ! Furthermore, theory and practice can never be exactly the same!
Reply #92008-02-20
There is another issue to note here: not only do changes in the temperature of the gas during winter and summer lead to variations in gas density, thereby affecting the compressor’s effective air delivery capacity, but the different temperatures of the cooling water in winter and summer also cause changes in the compressor’s effective air delivery capacity. This principle should be quite clear.
Reply #102008-12-07
On the contrary, the output is higher in winter than in summer
Reply #112008-12-07
I’m hearing about this for the first time; let’s take a look at the analyses provided by the experts ahead and learn from them.
Reply #122008-12-07
I agree with what the previous speakers said; the air volume in winter is clearly higher than in summer.
Reply #132008-12-07
On the contrary, more output is achieved in winter than in summer; low temperatures in winter increase the volume of inflation, making it the ideal time for manufacturers to boost production.
Reply #142008-12-10
If, as the poster in the workshop mentioned, the temperature is high and the air compression volume is large, then the compressor does not need an intercooler. The multi-stage isothermal compression of compressors relies on the cooler to cool the high-temperature gas, thereby increasing its density; with a higher density, more gas can fit into each unit volume, which ensures an adequate flow rate of gas.
Reply #152008-12-10
PV/T = P1V1/T1; it seems that the gas flow rate remains constant in summer and winter? This concept is correct, but it applies to gases of the same mass; such a correspondence exists. If the mass of the gas changes, then this correspondence no longer holds. The amount of air pumped by the compressor is related to temperature. In summer, when the temperature is high, according to the equation PV/T = N, with P remaining constant, V represents the volume of the cylinder; the higher the temperature, the lower the value of n. As a result, the amount of air drawn into the compressor’s cylinder in one cycle is less in summer compared to winter, and therefore the volume of air pumped out is also less in summer.

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