Can workshop operators and technicians replace part of the instrument operators?
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As title. In the past, the process and instrumentation were very separate in the factory, and each did their own thing. As a result, there were problems with poor coordination and mutual disputes. Now that the factory is expanding, the leaders want to reform the test, and also use their "few people and high efficiency" management. They hope that the process workshop can be responsible for some instrument work, and there is an instrument engineer position in the process workshop. Provide training to workshop personnel according to the division of labor. So, I would like to ask everyone to discuss, in order to stabilize production and reduce manpower considerably, 1. Which tasks can be completed by the workshop's main operators and engineers? 2. What tasks can be done by workshop engineers and team leaders with the cooperation of instruments? 3. Which tasks are still entirely the responsibility of instrument personnel? Specific tasks include: Inspection, maintenance, overhaul and replacement of on-site instruments, etc. ； PID parameter setting of DCS system, modification of interlocking logic, shielding, operation and maintenance ； Large unit control system, instrument control system, interlocking logic maintenance and modification, etc. ； Maintenance of engineering station. I'm a craftsman and I don't know much about the specific instrument work. I hope you can add more. I hope everyone can share their ideas and if they are adopted and implemented, I will give you feedback on the actual results. Thank you.
Your leaders have too high requirements for operators! It would be better to assign a dedicated person to take charge of the instrumentation...
This is cross-professional. It is recommended not to let craftsmen also do instrument work.
This is a bit bad, but it is better for everyone to do their own thing. It is just about the mutual cooperation between personnel. Do not let the technical personnel do the instrumentation. The technical personnel are not idle and need system optimization. The unqualified product quality is still the problem of the technical personnel. The superiors will check the technical personnel and make system adjustments. I suggest you do your own thing.
Nowadays, schools are very divided into majors, and most people do not meet the requirements.
That's right too. Although some of the work of instrument workers can be undertaken by operators, craftsmen, and equipment technicians, there are still some areas of professional knowledge that are not fully understood.
Nowadays, the degree of automation in chemical production is getting higher and higher, and instruments are more closely integrated with electronics and microelectronics. The installation, use, maintenance, and repair of instruments require more specialization. Workshop operators and process technicians can master some basic instrument knowledge through primary training, which is good for production control. However, professional maintenance, parameter modification, etc. must not be handled casually. They must be handled by professional automatic control engineering and technical personnel, otherwise it may cause production accidents, so be careful!
The Ministry of Chemical Industry has a clear stipulation: if it is not in charge of itself, it is not allowed to use or..., this work should be done by a special measurement management department, the instrument is the eyes of the operator!
Thank you all. I do think that craftsmen have more work, and it is indeed different from instrument majors. In fact, it is better to be more specialized when doing professional work. The operator can make a simple judgment on the fault of the instrument, but the specific operation must be completed by the instrument. As for interlocking and control logic, if it is simply left to the instrument personnel, it may be out of touch with the process. It is better to coordinate the two aspects. The process sets the requirements and the instrument implements them.
If you are really a generalist, you are familiar with the craftsmanship, and you are also very familiar with the instrument operation. Of course, the factory department can authorize him to do that. The problem is: Talents like that are few and far between. Of course, if your factory has instrumentation engineers in the workshop, that is a good move. Cultivating more skills of operators can improve the level of operators.
In our factory, the chemical industry is now helping with instrumentation, of course, on-site pressure gauges. The instrument is responsible for remote transmission. For on-site pressure gauge calibration and replacement, the chemical industry dismantles the pressure gauge and sends it to the instrument. After it is completed, the chemical engineering personnel take it back and install it. It doesn't feel very good, and the people working in the chemical industry complain about the instrument workshop.
In our factory, the local pressure gauge belongs to the process, and the remote pressure gauge and DCS belong to the instrument. It's better for everyone to mind their own business. Of course, the craftsmen must also have some knowledge of instrumentation.
DCS system configuration, PID tuning, start-up preparation, adjustment, and signal source detection and verification are very professional and cannot be done by craftsmen, and craftsmen are not qualified. Technicians only install, replace and send for inspection of on-site pressure gauges and thermometers, but calibration is still done by instrument professionals.
Just us* * It would be unrealistic for the technical level of enterprise operators to replace a very professional job such as instrument workers, and it is estimated that few leaders would dare to implement this. After all, responsibility is emphasized in everything now, and no one can be held responsible if something goes wrong.
It's better to separate them, but some nonsense will happen.
This model is still better. After all, the instrument job is very easy and can be done part-time.
Those who used to work on instruments should be fine if they are diverted to work on operations!
It's better to be separated and not mess around with each other. When things get unclear, there will be more wrangling. Chemical operation and instrumentation are two completely different fields. If a person can do chemical operation and instrumentation work, then it is not just the current salary level. This post was last edited by ntsdn on 2008-3-3 11:49 ]
It feels unfeasible. To be efficient with few people means to be professional and clear. If you set up more positions, you will have one more person. If you encounter problems in the future, you will be more likely to argue. Improper management is the root cause.
Inspection and maintenance of on-site instruments, such as on-site pressure gauges and thermometers, and their disassembly (regular inspection) and replacement can be completed by on-site personnel.