How not to be bullied by old-timers?
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I read a reply from an anonymous user on Zhihu and really agreed with it, so I’m reposting it here: As for those who refuse to accept opposing opinions and instead argue back immediately, I think their level of skill is still too low. Do you know how many highly skilled individuals of that kind I’ve encountered? As soon as new people arrive, these people are initially very enthusiastic and friendly toward them. Then, under the pretext of giving you a chance to gain experience, they assign you various trivial tasks. As a newcomer, you certainly try your best to do those tasks well. The problem is that after some time, once you become more skilled at your work and have your own tasks to handle, they still assign you such tasks. Should you not do them then? They’ll go around saying, “Hey, this person isn’t as diligent as before; it’s a waste that I was so good to them in the past.” If you take on tasks, they will keep passing more miscellaneous chores your way. I call this emotional usury: they help you at the beginning of your employment, then reap the benefits over time. How dare you confront such people? Secondly, when the leader assigns tasks, they respond promptly and then take charge of organizing them. They assign heavy tasks and significant responsibilities to newcomers like you, standing around giving instructions. If things succeed, the leader credits themselves for the achievement; if things fail, they say in front of the leader, “It’s just a newcomer – mistakes are inevitable,” thereby shifting the blame onto you while at the same time pretending to speak up for you. How would you dare to confront such people? After arguing like that, you won’t be able to stay in the company anymore. Some people say that your efforts are recognized by your superiors; but that’s just empty talk. Leaders are experienced professionals – how could they not know what kind of people work under them? The key issue is that there are endless easy targets in the form of newcomers, while those experienced employees in the company remain unchanged over time. Whether someone is easy to exploit or not seems to them as irrelevant as whether a dead battery still functions or not. In the minds of many managers, the only thing that matters is that work gets done and old colleagues aren’t offended; whether a newcomer suffers or not means nothing to them. They can probably recite comforting words by heart, but what they really think is, “If you can’t handle it, get out quickly – the company doesn’t lack newcomers.” In fact, over the years of working in state-owned enterprises, I’ve found that the best people to work with are those who don’t do any work at all; they’re harmless. On the other hand, those who cause the most harm to newcomers are those who appear friendly but are actually self-serving opportunists. I suggest that when a newcomer joins a company, they should keep a neutral attitude, not be too friendly, be cautious when others are kind to them, decline requests appropriately, do their own work well, and ignore anything that isn’t their responsibility. If someone is overly enthusiastic toward you right from the start, it’s likely that there’s something wrong with that person – either there are various factions within the company and someone wants to use you as a pawn, or they have ulterior motives. The worst part is when someone first tries to get close to you, learns that you’re easy to exploit, and takes advantage of you; if you prove to be difficult to manipulate, they look for your weaknesses. Some of those “veteran employees” claim that young people can’t be motivated, but that’s nonsense. During an avalanche, no single snowflake feels responsible. If you don’t believe me, investigate those experienced employees in your company and ask them, “Are you one of those experienced employees?” Most of them will deny it and come up with tons of reasons to prove otherwise. So there’s no need to argue with such people; just be clear in your own mind.
Is there really no one who is down-to-earth and treats others with sincerity?
When you reach his age, you’ll be the same. Hang in there slowly. There are three stages in life: youth, maturity, and old age. You are becoming mature, growing up
I want to say that aside from state-owned enterprises, are individual businesses, private enterprises, private firms, enterprises from Hong Kong and Taiwan, Japanese-owned enterprises, Korean-owned enterprises, and European and American enterprises all like angels – showing boundless kindness and enthusiasm towards everyone, offering excellent benefits, and allowing freedom in terms of working hours? ? ? Why do netizens only target state-owned enterprises when speaking ill of companies? Companies in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea practice extremely long shift hours, a system of silent work, thorough body searches upon arrival and departure, as well as activities such as drinking, gambling, and fighting in dormitory areas. Depression, suicide, and attempts to jump from heights are common among employees, and there is a system of collective punishment. Wait, in European and American companies, there is a heavy workload in CBDs/factories, long working hours, frequent textual traps in documents; it’s common for colleagues to try to take advantage of one another, and it’s also typical for senior employees to assign more work tasks to newcomers as a way to train them. . Wait, self-employed individuals, private enterprises, small and micro innovative enterprises. No social insurance. No work uniforms, no work shoes, no cafeteria. No dormitory, no reimbursement. There are no practical regulations, nor any safeguards for safe production. The working environment is poor, and salaries are set at the level corresponding to the local average salary threshold. . . Wait, why don’t I see netizens criticizing companies of this kind? Are they all angels, and is their realm a paradise? I don’t think so! Mocking state-owned enterprises every day – is that interesting or not? I find it very boring. If you are a talent, a super talent, state-owned enterprises can’t accommodate you, nor can private enterprises. Companies from Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea can’t fit in, nor can European and American companies. There are no suitable companies in your country that can accommodate you, but companies and enterprises across most of the world should be able to do so. If that doesn’t work, you can always take a spaceship to seek out alien civilizations – given your great capabilities, they should be able to accommodate you, right? ! Here’s one thing to avoid, and there’s another; this doesn’t work, and that doesn’t work either. In fact, everyone overlooks one thing: \"It isn’t ability that determines your ultimate value, but rather attitude,\" a value concept recognized throughout both the East and the West.
Be sure to say no in a timely manner; it depends on when you say no for the first time how long you will be bullied
There are many such people; just be careful yourself. There are plenty of people who act one way in front of others and another way behind their backs. Few are the good people who offer help without reason
It is because of your mindset, and your adherence to the outdated ideas of the older generation, that people like you end up suffering losses.
This post was last edited by pzhmotor on 2019-12-12 at 11:48. A \"veteran scoundrel\" refers to an old man who is experienced, worldly, slick, dishonest, and untrustworthy. Usually, they don’t put in any effort at work, are irresponsible, just go through the motions, and appear to be competent on the surface while not doing their job properly. There are a few such people in almost every place, but they certainly are not the mainstream. Such people have a cunning and deceitful nature deep within them; it’s very uncomfortable to be around them. They don’t have many true friends either, and no one will help them when problems arise, after all, no one is stupid. In my opinion, \"veteran tricksters\" are actually quite pitiable; at least they are lonely inside. Not only do newcomers be bullied by such old-timers, but even experienced people can fall for their tricks if they’re not careful. I think that once you realize someone might be a scammer, you might as well learn to agree verbally while taking action to deal with them; who can’t learn to tell more stories and shift blame? If he thinks you’re not very interesting, he won’t be likely to bother you. If there’s really no other choice, just let them bully you a few times first (\"Let him do as he will; like a gentle breeze passing over the hills,\" and look for an opportunity to settle accounts later). —— What I mean is that after working for a long time, everyone can become a \"veteran\", it’s just a matter of values and principles. Think carefully about issues, solve some practical problems, and hone your skills at the company. Only after gaining the recognition of your supervisors and colleagues can you truly say no to those who are too experienced; they will avoid you when they see you. If you really can’t stand them, you can even use some harsh measures against them.