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Why can’t the internal components for Shell gasifiers be manufactured in China?

2009-02-05View Original

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Why can’t the internal components for Shell gasifiers be manufactured in China? Are they patent requirements? Poor welding skills? Is it our material that’s not up to standard? Or other reasons?
Reply #22009-02-05
It must be due to other reasons, such as misjudgments regarding its application prospects in the early stages
Reply #32009-02-05
It’s not too late to reflect now, right? Has the manufacturing level not kept up as well? There are also materials that need to be imported, etc.
Reply #42009-02-05
There must also be considerations regarding patents
Reply #52009-02-05
There is no issue with the manufacturing quality; the gasifiers for water-coal slurry are all manufactured in China
Reply #62009-02-05
Indeed, there’s nothing you can do about the manufacturers designated by the patent holder, unless you possess the technology yourself.
Reply #72009-02-05
Texaco’s furnaces are different from Shell’s. If it’s the outer furnace shell, it’s definitely possible in China; what’s being referred to here is the internal components. The internal components of Texaco are refractory bricks.
Reply #82009-02-05
It should mainly be due to patent requirements; this is the issue that separates China’s manufacturing industry from the rest of the world. In fact, companies like Kimjong and Jungang are capable of doing it if they really want to – so why were only Indians chosen? It’s a question worth considering. Their material is also purchased (SA387); it is not produced by them themselves.
Reply #92009-02-05
There are no issues with the design and manufacturing of heating pots in China. For example, the boilers for Tianjin’s green IGCC project were all sourced domestically
Reply #102009-02-05
A few boiler manufacturers with the necessary capabilities should be fine now. But the most powerful one is still Shangguo, I guess.
Reply #112009-02-05
The key is to consider the issue of intellectual property, as well as the material issue
Reply #122009-02-05
Due to patent issues, they won’t allow production within the country; there’s definitely no problem with manufacturing the gasifier shell domestically! For the manufacture of water wall tubes, although the steel is imported, domestic production is not a problem; there are several large domestic boiler manufacturers! The GSP or Colin furnace is also basically manufactured in China, mainly due to patent issues
Reply #132009-02-06
It is estimated that if India decides to use Shell’s boilers, it might assign the task to Chinese companies
Reply #142009-02-06
There are three reasons, in my opinion: 1. When it comes to patented technologies, Shell does not want others to have them, as they are a tool for making money ; 2. Shell technology is not popular in China nowadays; there are many problems with its operation, so few new devices using this technology have been installed in the country ; 3. Certain welding techniques and materials do not meet the requirements.
Reply #152009-02-06
India’s manufacturing capabilities are certainly not on par with China’s; in the steel industry, aside from Mittal, it is not certain that Indian companies are as strong as those in China. The reason why India was able to produce SHELL furnaces lies mainly in SHELL’s interest in holding patents related to gasification technology. Additionally, due to various considerations and reasons, Shangguo missed the opportunity to collaborate with SHELL, which is indeed a pity considering SHELL’s current extensive presence in China. However, waste boilers can now also be manufactured in China; it can be said that they have caught up.
Reply #162009-02-06
I think it’s still a matter of integrity; they still don’t trust Chinese people. Many factories in China have obtained ISO 9001 certification, but they are unable to produce quality products (that satisfy customers). Quality management system certification is just a superficial formality.
Reply #172009-03-14
I think it’s the Chinese who have an exceptional ability to imitate. If the technology had been transferred to China rather than India, Shell’s vaporizers would already be widespread in China. Moreover, knowing Shell’s design principles makes it easier to control these vaporizers; so who are foreigners supposed to make money from then? The fact that China is now able to produce burners and burner covers independently is one example of this; knowledge was acquired without any need for technology transfer. With such transfer, foreigners would no longer need to come to China, nor would it be necessary to establish a Shell association – the Chinese can handle everything on their own

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