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Factors affecting changes in chromatographic retention time

2009-02-13View Original

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I have a question for you all: We have a chromatography workstation, which is used to calibrate the retention times of various components using standard samples. After calibration, the data is entered into the computer, where parameters such as time width, minimum area, and correction factors are set. But there is one issue for which I would like your help in finding an answer: after each injection, the retention times of the various components differ from those of the reference standards. The retention time is defined as falling within a certain range determined by the time width; for example, the retention time for component A is 1.30 with a time width of 0.05, while the retention time for component B is 1.41 with the same time width of 0.05. After injection, it was found that the retention time of A was 1. 37 or 1. 24 refers to the situation where, after each injection, the retention time of a certain component does not match the set retention time; sometimes it is even outside the specified time range, as in the case of component A1. 37 is within the retention time range of component B, 1. 24 is also lower than the retention time of Component A. Therefore, it is necessary to change the time width; there is a significant difference in the analysis results depending on whether the retention time is changed or not. Could everyone tell me where my problem lies and what the proper approach is? Thank you! This post was last edited by lifanwang on 2009-3-14 20:48]
Reply #22009-02-13
1. Check whether the flow rate of the gas being drawn in is stable. 2. Have the same person analyze the same sample to determine if there are differences due to variations among analysts. 3. Check whether it’s time to replace the sampling pad
Reply #32009-02-13
This phenomenon is quite common in the case of manual sampling; If it is automatic sampling, the flow valve needs to be checked. Solution: If there are relatively few components, just set the window width to a larger value, and that’s it. If the components are closely packed, you need to standardize your sampling procedure and actions. Manual sampling: The retention time may be advanced or delayed due to differences in individual *habits. The solution is to standardize the sampling method uniformly ; Appropriately widen the window width ; Then all the problems can be solved. I looked at your example, and that’s why the window width can be used. This post was last edited by chengjingbao on 2009-2-13 20:03]
Reply #42009-02-13
By the way, the window width should not exceed 20% at most. If this limit is regularly exceeded, it’s better to activate the column and use a calibration curve. Reply to the original poster’s message: Activated column = aged column ; The calibration curve means re-calibrating it. I’m sorry, I didn’t speak clearly. This post was last edited by chengjingbao on 2009-2-13 19:55]
Reply #52009-02-14
1. Check the carrier gas flow rate. 2. Maintain consistent sample injection. 3. The column must be activated in advance
Reply #62009-03-13
Learn a bit: handshake
Reply #72009-03-14
What the experts said makes a lot of sense. Additional notes: 1. If the properties of the sample components differ significantly from those of the standard samples, it’s normal for the retention times to vary; in such cases, appropriate pre-treatment of the sample is necessary. 2. Additionally, differences in the amount of sample injected or overload can also lead to variations in retention times
Reply #82009-03-15
I’m not quite sure what time width means, but the time width in our laboratory doesn’t change; it seems to be set by default. It’s normal for the retention time to differ from the standard; of course, it shouldn’t differ by too much, but a certain degree of difference is entirely normal. Just make the changes in the offline workstation each time. In my laboratory, if the data retention time differs by little, changing it or not makes no difference to the results. Of course, it should also be mentioned to the friend upstairs: maintain stability under stress, use an appropriate working temperature, replace the sampling pad, and fully age the column.
Reply #92009-03-15
In a situation like yours, you might consider manually marking the peak integration times. The concept of time width is straightforward: it refers to the allowable positive and negative errors in the time of the chromatographic peak’s apex. If you want things to be easier, you can opt for a chromatograph with electronic flow control
Reply #102009-03-15
We’ve encountered this situation as well, but it doesn’t seem to have much impact on the results! I don’t know what the reason is either!
Reply #112009-03-18
I have some information here; I’m not sure if it’s the extended time period you’re looking for. During chromatographic analysis, the peaks of both the standard and sample widen over time – is this normal? Answer: If there is no significant difference in retention time and only a broadened peak tailing, it may indicate the presence of activation sites. If the broadened peak is symmetric, it may be due to normal column \"wear and loss.\" If the peak extends forward, it indicates that the chromatography column is overloaded.
Reply #122009-03-19
We have encountered this issue as well; I think it’s a problem with the chromatography column, and it can be aged first. The injection speed is also an issue.
Reply #132009-03-22
In this case, you need to pay attention to the following points: 1. The skill levels of the operators should be similar. 2. The composition of the samples should be similar. 3. If conditions permit, you can reduce the flow rate or column temperature to increase the retention time difference between the various components, thereby widening the time width. 4. The sample passage area should be cleaned regularly to ensure there are no foreign substances present. 5. The quality of the pressure stabilizing valve should be good. 6. Is the chromatography column within its valid period? 7. Should the silicone or molecular sieve in the gas path purification tube be replaced? 8. Is the temperature control system functioning properly? 9. In the case of programmed temperature rise, should one wait 2-3 minutes after the preparation light comes on before injecting the sample? In short, if the retention time fluctuates within the normal range, there is no need to worry about it; if the fluctuations are significant, then consider the points mentioned above.
Reply #142009-03-22
The retention times of the various components differ by too little; there are variations in the time it takes for the workstation to start collecting spectra after injection by different operators, or there may be leaks at the injection port
Reply #152009-03-27
I think when testing the same substance, it’s possible to take multiple measurements and use the average value! ! This post was last edited by lifanwang on 2009-3-27 15:19]
Reply #162009-03-30
It’s normal for there to be such deviations in retention time, right! First, there may be a time delay between manual sample injection and data collection; this issue exists even when the same operator is performing the tasks ; Second, the amount of sample injected also affects the retention time. I think the problem still lies in the fact that the peaks of the two components occur too closely together. You can try changing the detection conditions, such as the column temperature at the start of detection, the rate of programmed temperature increase, the flow rate of the carrier gas, etc. Separate the two components a bit and increase the time width; this should resolve the issue.

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