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Methanol gasoline project

2009-02-13View Original

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What’s the situation with methanol gasoline projects? **Is there any policy support for such projects? I’ve seen that many places have already established their own local standards for methanol gasoline
Reply #22009-02-13
The methanol gasoline project is excellent and holds great promise; it is the necessary path for replacing oil with coal in China.
Reply #32009-02-14
The project is good, but promotion is difficult; **the standards for methanol gasoline have not been established yet.
Reply #42009-02-17
Methanol gasoline is the new favorite among future fuels, and its prospects are very good
Reply #52009-02-23
I know this all too well: it’s like being a thief – the standards are not established for a long time, local authorities hide information, and consumers are also dissatisfied. The prospects are good, but the path ahead is full of obstacles. My QQ is 272201175; those who are interested can discuss it with me
Reply #62009-02-24
I’d like to know the characteristics of methanol gasoline.:)
Reply #72009-02-24
This involves China’s three major petrochemical companies – is it easy to take more food from their plates and give it to you? As a result, on one hand, each year hundreds of thousands of tons of methanol are used in China for purposes for which their whereabouts remain unknown; in fact, this methanol is secretly added to the fuel tanks at gas stations ; On the one hand, the standards for methanol gasoline established by the Petrochemical Research Institute have not been released for a long time; it was not until **the end of last year that another team was formed to develop standards for methanol fuel, with this team based in Shanxi. This is the current situation in China.
Reply #82009-03-04
We are also participating in this project; are there any relevant process documents available?
Reply #92009-03-05
A few days ago, I was at a meeting in Beijing, where the president of the Beijing Alcohol Ether Association said that methanol-based gasoline is not a good option. Although it is being promoted by many people, it causes significant damage to car engines, and the emission problems remain unresolved. Someone at the meeting asked whether the emissions issue related to methanol-based gasoline had been resolved, to which the project presenter replied that the emissions problem with regular gasoline hadn’t been solved either, yet it was still being used just fine I believe the technology for methanol-based gasoline is not yet mature; otherwise, countries abroad would not have stopped using it and started developing ethanol-based gasoline instead. Ethanol-based gasoline is a good option, but ethanol is produced by using food as a source of energy, which is not acceptable! This includes dimethyl ether, which was introduced a few years ago as a substance that could replace gasoline, diesel, and other fuels in vehicles. It turned out, however, that its calorific value couldn’t be increased, and its production cost was very high – 1.5 tons of methanol were required along with significant amounts of energy for synthesis to produce just 1 ton of dimethyl ether, making it not practical for use! Another issue is: how could companies such as CNPC, Sinopec, and CNOOC get involved in methanol gasoline projects? These interests are directly tied to their own, so they certainly won’t give up control over these monopolistic industries!
Reply #102009-03-18
The reply from the seventh floor was very accurate; in fact, the disadvantages of methanol-based gasoline such as its corrosiveness, swelling effect, and problems with cold starting have all been addressed. The key issue is the concern that once standards for methanol-based gasoline are established, it could disrupt the order in the entire fuel market and affect the interests of monopolistic companies like CNPC! CNPC and Sinopec will then ask: Who has taken my cheese! ^_^ This post was last edited by ygx2000 on 2009-3-18 14:25.]
Reply #112009-04-23
Yes, we can communicate with each other. We are manufacturers of methanol gasoline.
Reply #122009-04-23
The following are some contents from our company’s feasibility study report on methanol gasoline; we hope it can be helpful to you. 1. High thermal efficiency: Methanol has a high octane rating (103), a low molecular weight, and a large latent heat of vaporization, all of which help to improve the thermal efficiency of engines. The air-fuel ratio of methanol to gasoline is 0.92 : 1. The energy consumption ratio for the low-ratio blending of methanol with gasoline (M15, M30) is 1.02–1.05 : 1 ; High-proportion (M85) and fully methanol fuels have an energy consumption ratio to finished gasoline of 1.5–1.6:1, offering good power performance. 2. Good environmental performance: Methanol contains oxygen, which facilitates complete combustion. The engine produces fewer harmful gases when using methanol fuel compared to gasoline. When using Walton M15 methanol gasoline, the conventional exhaust emissions of CO and HC are reduced by 23.2% and 28.5%, respectively, compared to conventional gasoline ; Compared to gasoline meeting national standards, M85 and M100 methanol fuel reduce CO, HC, and NOX emissions by 50–70%, 30–50%, and 10–20%, respectively. The harmful substances emitted in unconventional ways are less than those from gasoline. 3. Good safety: The conservative blending period for \"Huatong\" brand methanol-based gasoline for use in vehicles is 90 days. During this period, proper storage and transportation ensure that no separation occurs and the fuel does not deteriorate. Methanol fuel has a higher specific gravity than gasoline and a lower vapor pressure, which gives it better conductivity and reduces the likelihood of accidents. 4. Good adaptability: When used in existing vehicles, M15 and M30 can be blended at low proportions with methanol-based gasoline. No changes to the engine components are required; it can be used alone, mixed with regular gasoline or ethanol-based gasoline, or used as a substitute for them, offering flexibility and convenience. For the distribution of methanol fuel, fuel suppliers can utilize existing petroleum fuel distribution systems by adding a separate unit to the current equipment; with some modifications and cleaning, they can enable the storage, transportation, and distribution of methanol fuel. 5. The toxicity of methanol fuel and its impact on the environment are lower than those of gasoline. Studies show that both methanol and gasoline fall into the category of moderately toxic substances according to chemical toxicity standards. During the research on the technology for blending methanol with gasoline in the M15 formula, the combined toxicity of methanol and gasoline was examined. Research on topics such as \"methanol poisoning and detoxification\" and \"the effects of methanol on human health\" was carried out by Beijing Medical University, including studies on the health impacts on people exposed to methanol-based fuels (drivers, gas station workers, researchers). A continuous and detailed three-year follow-up study was conducted by the Department of Occupational Diseases and the Ophthalmology Department at the Third Hospital of Peking University Health Science Center, with comparisons made against groups that were not exposed to methanol. In conclusion: As long as the operating procedures are followed, and it is not consumed, does not get into the eyes, and is not in direct prolonged contact with the skin, it will have no impact on human health. Compared to methanol, gasoline is composed of hundreds of different hydrocarbon compounds, some of which (such as benzene and butadiene) are strong carcinogens. Methanol, on the other hand, is a single chemical with a well-understood mechanism of action and is not a carcinogen. According to a test report by the U.S. Department of Energy, the toxicity of methanol has a lesser impact on aquatic ecosystems compared to gasoline, measured on a percentage scale (with 100 representing the highest toxicity). The toxicity ratings are: gasoline 100, ethanol 50, methanol 30. Methanol degrades in water more rapidly than crude oil and gasoline; the time it remains in water is measured in hours for methanol, while it is measured in years for gasoline. When methanol leaks into the soil, microorganisms quickly reduce its concentration, resulting in less pollution and a shorter duration of impact compared to that caused by gasoline and diesel. 6. Corrosivity of methanol fuel: Huawton Company possesses advanced technologies and methods for overcoming the corrosivity of methanol fuel. In the industrialization demonstration projects for methanol fuel and methanol-powered vehicles in Shanxi Province, nearly 5 million vehicle trips were made using \"Huawton-brand\" high-purity methanol gasoline, with vehicles traveling up to 200,000 kilometers without any signs of corrosion detected through subsequent evaluations.

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