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Regarding elbow flow meters

2009-02-18View Original

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I want to measure the steam flow for metering purposes. Can a elbow flow meter be used in a straight pipe section? “What is the difference between L-shaped and S-shaped elbow flow meters? As a meter-grade flowmeter, which one is better – it or the vortex flowmeter? Are there any requirements regarding the pipe diameter? Thank you everyone.
Reply #22009-02-18
For measuring steam, vortex flowmeters are the best choice; for measuring gases, elbow flowmeters work well
Reply #32009-02-18
A elbow flow meter can be installed on a straight pipe for measurement purposes. Of course, its accuracy is not as high as that of a vortex flow meter. As for the difference between L-type and S-type elbows, it lies in the varying level of flow resistance they present. It is still feasible to use temperature and pressure compensation for general measurement purposes. Our factory also uses elbow flow meters for external measurement. The effect is also pretty good.
Reply #42009-02-19
For inplant and outplant measurement, vortex flowmeters are still the better choice. Elbow-type flowmeters come in L and S configurations; the L configuration is suitable for installation at natural bends in the existing process pipelines, with horizontal installation being the most optimal; The S-type is used for straight pipe sections in any space; its accuracy is generally 1%. Vortex flow meters are recommended. This post was last edited by hwindforce on 2009-2-19 at 15:32.]
Reply #52009-03-07
The elbow flow meter used in our factory works fairly well
Reply #62009-03-07
There are many types of flow meters available for measuring steam flow. When used for measurement purposes, a high level of accuracy is required. Based on our usage needs, there are wedge flow meters (which seem to have been discontinued), as well as Coriolis flow meters. The advantages of these latter types include temperature and pressure compensation; however, their installation is relatively more complex and requires certain technical skills. Despite this, they offer high accuracy, but at a correspondingly higher cost. Orifice plate flow meters have mature technology; they offer high measurement accuracy, are easy to install, but they cause significant pressure losses in steam. They are also inexpensive.
Reply #72009-03-07
Personally, I recommend avoiding elbow pipes; a V-type vortex flowmeter is also a good option, as it operates on the same principle as an orifice plate.
Reply #82009-03-07
Of course, vortex flowmeters are better; elbow flowmeters are rather troublesome to install and are generally not used often. However, it is best to add temperature and pressure compensation when measuring gases.
Reply #92009-03-07
It is highly recommended to use orifice plates or vortex flow meters; avoid other types. The V-cone in our factory got blown off, and the elbow is non-standard.
Reply #102009-03-07
Why do so many experienced professionals, when discussing elbow flowmeters, acknowledge their high reproducibility accuracy but at the same time consider their measurement accuracy to be low? Understanding these issues is of great importance for the widespread adoption of elbow flowmeters; perhaps the analysis below will provide us with a more fair answer. The structure of the elbow sensor is very simple; it is simply an elbow with defined geometric dimensions. As fluid flows through this elbow, centrifugal force is generated, resulting in a pressure difference between the inner and outer sides of the elbow. This principle of conversion is clear and accurate. During the operation of the elbow sensor, as long as the conditions and conditions under which the fluid flows through the sensor can be repeated, the sensor will inevitably generate a constant differential pressure signal; therefore, it is natural that its reproducibility and precision are high. When discussing the conclusion that elbow flowmeters have low measurement accuracy, we cannot consider this issue beyond the historical conditions and technical levels of that time. Although the structure of the bent tube sensor is particularly simple, it was not easy to obtain high-quality bent tubes under the historical conditions of that time. By high-quality bent tubes, we mean those with proper verticality, levelness, minimal twisting, low degree of out-of-roundness, and uniformity; among these factors, the roundness and uniformity of the bent tube are especially important for manufacturing bent tube sensors. It is very difficult to meet the basic requirements for bent tubes as used in sensor production through manual methods or simple mechanical cold or hot bending processes. Secondly, like orifice flow meters, elbow flow meters also fall under the category of differential pressure flow meters. When selecting the range of the accompanying differential pressure transmitter, it is preferable to have a larger differential pressure range, as this helps to improve the measurement accuracy of the system. Orifice plate flow meters can enable a wider range for the differential pressure transmitter by selecting different opening ratios β values. Of course, such a choice comes at a cost: it increases the flow resistance loss of the medium, and in cases of high flow rates and large pipe diameters, it raises the operating costs of the system. This is not the case with elbow flowmeters. Although a smaller radius ratio of the elbow sensor helps to increase the differential pressure generated, this increase is quite limited. The differential pressure produced by elbow flowmeters in practical applications is relatively low. At that time, the manufacturing technology for differential pressure gauges was rather backward, and their technical specifications such as accuracy level, stability, and zero drift were not very satisfactory. Measuring low differential pressures, or even extremely small differential pressures, presents even greater challenges. Such accompanying instruments cannot ensure that the elbow flow meter achieves high measurement accuracy. Third, the production technology for secondary instruments at that time was also highly backward. In addition to their low accuracy, pointer-type secondary instruments from that era lacked any other functional capabilities. As a result, such instruments were unable to perform even the most basic operations like taking square roots, which forced the flow measurement scales to be designed in a nonlinear format. The above three points are the main reasons why elbow flowmeters fail to yield good measurement results.
Reply #112009-03-08
However, what currently limits the accuracy of elbow flow meters is our **underdeveloped metal processing industry, which is unable to produce high-quality pipes. The secondary instruments themselves are not a problem; therefore, in terms of ease of installation and pressure loss, elbow flow meters are superior to orifice plates. But since high-quality elbows cannot be manufactured domestically, this flow meter, which has great potential, ends up falling out of favor.
Reply #122009-03-08
The S-shaped and L-shaped versions differ only in having one bend or two bends!
Reply #132009-05-01
Trade settlement should not be used; elbow pipes are non-standard products, and disputes can result in losses

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