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Can you sleep on night shifts?

2009-02-22View Original

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The chemical and refining industries are both characterized by continuous production, requiring that the production facilities be operated and maintained around the clock. Theoretically, under normal operating conditions, a set of equipment requires only one or two operators to monitor the instruments in real time, with another one or two operators conducting on-site inspections of the equipment – this represents the minimum level of workload required. In fact, the designated capacity for a set of equipment in our country generally far exceeds this minimum number. Therefore, in my opinion, it is generally acceptable to allow certain operators to take adequate breaks through proper rotation during night shifts at designated times and locations; this not only benefits the physical and mental health of the operators but also facilitates their management. Therefore, rather than having operators try to find a place to sleep during night shifts or sleep together in the control room, which violates labor discipline, it is better to establish a system of rotating rest periods. What do everyone think of this view? From personal experience, working the night shift allows one to get a rest of one and a half hours at the most tired times, which can **reduce feelings of fatigue**. I wonder in developed countries abroad, how are night shifts handled? Those who know can also share.
Reply #22009-02-22
Hahaha, the problem of night shift workers feeling sleepy can be solved by reducing working hours and increasing the number of shifts. . . :lol
Reply #32009-02-22
Our company focuses on reducing staff while increasing efficiency; we don’t have that many employees, so it’s not possible to add more shifts. We are now on shift 2 of shift 4, from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., with a cycle of four days.
Reply #42009-02-22
We have a four-shift system with three shifts per day; if you sleep on duty, you’ll be caught, fined 500 yuan, and the incident will be broadcast on television.
Reply #52009-02-22
Under the current four-shift, two-shift system, each person is allowed to rest for 3–4 hours during the night shift as per regulations. Typically, the night shift lasts 11–13 hours; however, in the five-shift, three-shift and four-shift, three-shift systems, sleeping is not permitted. Typically, night shifts last 7 to 8 hours. At present, most major chemical and refining facilities in China operate on a five-shift three-shift or four-shift three-shift system, while auxiliary facilities use a four-shift two-shift system. In developed countries abroad, the degree of automation is high and the self-protection systems in case of accidents are well-developed; domestic facilities do not reach that level, so it is necessary to consider whether there are enough personnel available in such situations.
Reply #62009-02-22
We’re not allowed to sleep even during the midnight shift; I’m extremely tired, and after each shift I feel like I’ve died, haha
Reply #72009-02-22
Rather than having operators during night shifts try to find a place to sleep or sleep together in the control room, which violates labor discipline, it is better to establish a system of rotating rest periods. I agree with this view. These days, there are many people suffering from high blood pressure, and the reason for this is poor sleep at night. The provision that night shifts can be rotated with periods of rest is a reasonable measure to ensure that operators can work in good health; it represents humane management and helps to promote the health and longevity of the workers.
Reply #82009-02-22
If there are many people on duty, you can take turns taking short naps, but it’s essential to ensure that someone is always monitoring and conducting inspections! Safety is the top priority in production! !
Reply #92009-02-22
It would be terrible if everyone fell asleep and an accident happened; taking turns to rest is something that could be considered
Reply #102009-02-22
Working night shifts is indeed harmful to workers’ health. However, work in the chemical industry involves continuous operations, and the current number of staff on hand is intended for use in emergency situations, such as power outages or other disruptions that cause production to stop; in such cases, one or two people may not be enough to handle everything, and failure to respond promptly can lead to serious accidents. If everyone could voluntarily take a one-hour break during shift changes, that would be good; I’m just worried that some people won’t do so voluntarily. I also support finding a way to allow workers to rest. To be honest, I’ve been working for almost two years now, and I haven’t worked any night shifts at all; can I really say I’m not tired? No, is it because you’re worried about spending money? Not either. Hehe, so in our class, I can say that those who are sleeping don’t have the right to criticize me (in this regard). Doing certain exercises while sleeping is even more dangerous; once, it almost led to an accident. Fortunately, my phone rang and I went outside to answer it; I noticed something was wrong, otherwise I would have been in a lot of trouble.
Reply #112009-02-22
Our company uses a five-shift, two-shift system (working shifts from 4 o’clock in the morning to midnight), and during the night shifts, two groups of workers take turns resting; I think this shift arrangement is quite good
Reply #122009-02-22
Factories abroad indeed have few workers; in factories similar to ours, there are only 2–3 people working at night, not including maintenance staff. Perhaps when I went there they were reducing production to one-third of its normal level. Our workshop has a higher degree of automation than theirs, but it still doesn’t have an adequate workforce – we need around 10 people. In our factory, there are some positions where it’s possible to take turns sleeping; these are usually those jobs that involve handling toxic substances or require high levels of concentration due to their complexity
Reply #132009-02-22
To be honest, I’m also an experienced teacher with several years of experience at this job; it’s possible to fall asleep while working. The equipment will keep running even if you don’t go out for inspections. Besides, if you don’t sleep after a night shift, it really feels like you’ve lost half of your life force. Ah, the hardships of working shifts.
Reply #142009-02-22
During night shifts with a three-shift rotation, sleeping is not allowed, but with a two-shift rotation, rotating rest days are possible! ~Because it’s very tiring to keep staring at the computer for 12 hours! But if the level of automation is very high, then sleeping isn’t allowed! For example, Takahashi Petrochemical’s cracking units have a high level of automation; workers are not allowed to sleep at night! ~
Reply #152009-02-22
We work in shifts of four days, with two shifts per day. On the first day, we work the day shift from 8:00 to 16:00; on the second day, we work the night shift from 16:00 to 8:00. Days three and four are off, forming a cycle of four days. During the night shift, it’s possible to take breaks by dividing the shift into two groups – the first group works from 22:00 to 2:00, and the second group from 2:00 to 6:00. If there’s an issue with the equipment, we need to be ready to take action immediately. The working schedule is quite reasonable. But pay attention to job training and monitoring.
Reply #162009-02-22
We work in three-shift rotations; it’s not allowed to sleep as we feel too tired, and we hope to switch to a four-shift, three-day rotation system.
Reply #172009-02-22
Our company is actively implementing a four-shift, two-shift system; workers on night shifts can get some sleep, and I think this is a good approach as it ensures safe production while also being beneficial to the employees’ health.
Reply #182009-02-22
Sleeping during the night shift is definitely not allowed, but it’s understandable to take a quick nap when production isn’t busy; after all, humans aren’t machines – even though machines can fail sometimes. However, there are tricks to taking naps as well, and it’s necessary to ensure that this doesn’t interfere with safe operations. For example, if you work in a pump room and have completed an inspection every hour and find that everything is fine and all tasks have been done, then you can take a nap during that downtime (but not just fall into a deep sleep!) ). The most difficult position is the one involving internal monitoring – one person has to watch one or several screens, and it’s very risky to doze off!
Reply #192009-02-23
The rule allowing shifts at night with alternating rest periods is a reasonable measure to ensure that operators can work in good health; it represents humanistic management. I could ask Dagang Petrochemicals – it seems they follow this approach currently
Reply #202009-02-23
Enterprise management should be people-oriented, focusing on facilitation rather than restriction.

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