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In a construction and installation contract, how much can the owner or management company impose as a penalty for issues related to progress or safety?

2009-03-02View Original

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What is the typical percentage that progress penalties can account for of the contract value, as specified in the contract? What is the typical percentage that safety fee penalties can account for of the contract value? This post was last edited by laiqi on 2009-3-4 15:45]
Reply #22009-03-02
There doesn’t seem to be any specific rules for this; it should be determined through negotiation between the two parties, right? Regarding late fees, in my opinion, the principle should be a win-win situation that avoids damaging relationships! Because the factors affecting the construction progress include those from the construction party as well as those from the owner ; As long as it does not significantly affect the overall project timeline or remains within an acceptable range, we generally do not resort to imposing fines. For reference!
Reply #32009-03-02
Could someone tell me the reference values for each project? A punishment is necessary. It’s affecting the project timeline; both the weekly and monthly progress schedules are delayed, and this has happened several times already. There is no other way. Let’s all talk about it
Reply #42009-03-03
1. The penalty for delays in progress generally does not exceed 10% of the total contract value. 2. Safety measures must be determined based on the extent and severity of any safety incidents that occur
Reply #52009-03-03
I hope everyone can come and talk about it; why does it seem that neither the property owners nor the management company impose any fines?
Reply #62009-03-03
Relying solely on fines to address delays is not an effective approach; sometimes it can even have the opposite effect! It is recommended that LZ 1: 1) carefully investigate the reasons affecting the progress of the construction work; 2) examine carefully the construction contract signed initially; 3) read the provisions on liability for breach of contract in the Contract Law; 4) sit down and negotiate with the other party to the contract. Problems can always be solved! For reference!
Reply #72009-03-03
The construction company keeps delaying; we’ve talked about it many times. And there is no other effective way but to break down the weekly schedule into daily tasks for execution.
Reply #82009-03-03
There seems to be no specific regulations regarding the amount of fines. I am from the construction party, and I disagree with the practice of the construction party imposing fines on other construction firms. Management is not achieved through fines; rather, it is accomplished by improving one’s own management skills in order to reach the desired management goals. Since the progress and safety standards do not meet the owner’s requirements, there could be various reasons for this. If it is not due to your side’s faults, then at the very least it means that you did not give sufficient consideration when selecting the construction company – you failed to take into account their construction and management capabilities. It should not be done with the aim of imposing fines; it is best not to use such methods to achieve your goals either. The more penalties you impose, it only shows that your management skills are poor. Of course, the matter of fines can be stipulated in the contract at an amount acceptable to both parties, which will certainly serve as a good incentive and warning for the construction party.
Reply #92009-03-03
1. The issue of fines can be specified in the contract, at an amount that is acceptable to both parties. I wonder what percentage is usually agreed upon? 2. A general schedule was established, broken down into monthly and daily plans; if it can’t be completed, they won’t listen to you. So what should we do? How is good management achieved?
Reply #102009-03-03
In the process of construction management, it is unreasonable to attempt to break down the overall construction plan into daily plans for evaluation. The amount of the penalty specified in the contract isn’t very high; if it were higher, no one would agree to sign it. Moreover, it’s not possible to specify a penalty in the contract when the plans can’t be carried out as planned. And is it entirely the responsibility of the construction company if the progress cannot be completed?
Reply #112009-03-03
Firstly, the construction and installation company did not allocate the necessary human resources, and secondly, the materials and equipment were not provided in a timely manner; therefore, I would like to point out the inadequate measures that are holding back this company. Secondly, an important aspect of project management is control. In terms of schedule, if schedule goals are not broken down, no assessments are carried out, and no daily reminders are given, how can control be achieved?
Reply #122009-03-03
1. It would be helpful to indicate, in an appropriate manner, factors such as the personnel allocated by the construction party and the arrival of materials at the site, as these are after all internal management issues of the construction party. 2. The control methods in project management should not be limited to evaluation and punishment; coordination should play a greater role as well. 3. It is recommended to adopt a different approach to problem-solving, replacing fines with rewards, which might yield different results. For example, setting up rewards for achieving certain key milestones related to progress could encourage the construction party to complete those tasks on time or ahead of schedule (we use this method from time to time). For your reference!
Reply #132009-03-04
Rewarding instead of punishing is more effective! All the foreigners here use this method; we’ve received payment bonuses for extended project timelines on three occasions. It’s something that can be achieved easily, doesn’t result in much cost waste, and allows us to earn additional income – it’s very effective.
Reply #142009-03-04
The key is operability. The fines here are low, so construction companies prefer to pay the fines rather than send their workers to other sites to delay the project timeline and make money there. The amount of the reward is also crucial; giving a reward of a few hundred or a few thousand doesn’t mean much at all. What is your limit?
Reply #152009-03-04
1. The specific amount of the reward needs to be determined by comparing the benefits obtained from completing the construction on schedule or ahead of schedule with the losses caused by delays, taking all factors into consideration. 2. It is also determined based on the cash amount available to the owner and approved for use by the finance department. 3. The rush fees or milestone bonuses I have provided typically range from 50,000 to 100,000 per instance. 4. Additionally, one must also consider the other party’s budget, the boss’s financial capacity, and the relationship between the two parties. For reference!
Reply #162009-03-06
1. Regarding progress control: It is very difficult to break it down to a daily level, and it is also unrealistic to control it on a daily basis. I usually use goal management: what milestone to achieve by that day. 2. Regarding rewards and punishments: Generally speaking, everyone is aware of the ratio between internal rewards and punishments, so there’s no need to go into further detail; P ; For external parties, it is generally around 1:5; the reward is in cash and given to individuals, while fines are imposed on companies. As for how the other party processes it, that is their internal issue. If there are more than 3 or 5 delays in progress payments (depending on the size of the project), it’s time to change the construction contractor! Generally, once an individual has a clear bonus in mind, they will complete the work on time, unless the company is truly unable to function properly. By the way, there is no 100% perfect schedule at the initial stage; therefore, on the one hand it is necessary to implement the plan strictly, but on the other hand, if the plan is indeed unreasonable, it is important to listen to the opinions of the construction party.
Reply #172009-03-06
Few actually implement such management; it doesn’t matter how much is written in the contract, as long as it sounds reasonable.
Reply #182009-03-07
The specific amount of the reward depends on its purpose and content; the highest amount we have received was 200,000.

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