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The Fourth Listening Interpretation Activity Discussion Post 2

2009-03-05View Original

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Closed cylinders or pressure vessels or any kind of a fuel tank that has contained a liquid hydrocarbon fuel is extremely dangerous. Regarding the translation of this sentence, there are two translations in the activity. The difference is: Does the clause after that modify a fuel tank or all three things in front of it. The translation results are naturally quite different, roughly as follows: a. A closed cylinder or pressure vessel or any kind of fuel tank that has been used to store liquid hydrocarbon fuel is extremely hazardous. b. Closed cylinders or pressure vessels or fuel tanks of any kind that have ever stored liquid hydrocarbon fuel are extremely dangerous. Please discuss it together. Of course, my point is to modify the first three, namely b.
Reply #22009-03-06
I agree with reason b: If the medium is an ordinary medium, the sealed cylinder is not dangerous, only if it has been filled with liquid hydrocarbons.
Reply #32009-03-06
Closed cylinders or pressure vessels or any kind of a fuel tank that has contained a liquid hydrocarbon fuel is extremely dangerous. I also agree with the translation of A,. because: Closed cylinders, pressure vessels and any kind of a fuel tank that has contained a liquid hydrocarbon fuel are connected with "or", which is a parallel relationship. This post was last edited by wsts00100 on 2009-3-6 06:46 ]
Reply #42009-03-06
According to the context, I also think that modifies the first three.
Reply #52009-03-06
Closed cylinders or pressure vessels or any kind of a fuel tank that has contained a liquid hydrocarbon fuel is extremely dangerous. Closed cylinders or pressure vessels or any kind of fuel tank that has contained a liquid hydrocarbon fuel is extremely dangerous. I THINK THE TWO OPTIONS ARE MORE OR LESS THE SAME.:L
Reply #62009-03-06
Original sentence: Closed cylinders or pressure vessels or any kind of a fuel tank that has contained a liquid hydrocarbon fuel is extremely dangerous. There are two places in this sentence where subject-verb agreement must be considered (the blue and red sentences). Three principles need to be followed when dealing with subject-verb agreement.: The principle of grammatical consistency, the principle of consistency of meaning and the principle of proximity. A detailed analysis of this sentence is as follows:: 1. Regarding the agreement between the coordinating subject and the verb, this is what the grammar book says: The verb after "noun + or + noun" generally agrees with the verb after or. This sentence removes the attributive clause and becomes: Closed cylinders or pressure vessels or any kind of a fuel is extremely dangerous. Any is an indefinite pronoun expressing a singular concept, and any kind of a fuel tank has a singular meaning. The predicate verb in this sentence should be singular---is. 2. Attributive clause part: Closed cylinders or pressure vessels or any kind of a fuel tank that has contained a liquid hydrocarbon fuel. The predicate verb in the attributive clause should be consistent with the antecedent. If there are several parallel antecedents, the principle of proximity is adopted. Any kind of a fuel tank is singular, and the attributive clause that is singular, has contained.... 3. Supplementary understanding in Chinese: Containers that have not been filled with fuel (such as new containers that have only been filled with water or have not been used) do not have welding hazards.
Reply #72009-03-06
In fact, it is impossible to determine whether it is a or b from grammatical analysis. Without the following text, I don’t think I can judge, because containers that do not contain liquid hydrocarbons and other dangerous goods are also extremely dangerous. Judging from the context, it should be option b, there is no doubt.
Reply #82009-03-09
Based on everyone’s analysis and discussion, it is tentatively decided as B.; Different opinions are welcome to continue in-depth discussion: lol.
Reply #92009-03-14
Grammatically speaking, the translation of a is better because the that clause is closer to any kind of a fuel tank; But from the perspective of the meaning of the entire sentence, the translation of b should be more reasonable.

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