The First Shot in 2009 – Discussion on Measures to Improve the Quality of Technical Exchanges in the Mechanical Equipment Sector
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The biggest task for the machinery and equipment sector in 2009 – discussions on measures to improve the quality of exchanges. 1. Topics that are very simple and can be found by just flipping through books, as well as those involving mixed scoring, will not be rated for now; members can assign scores if they are satisfied. In this way, the number of posts with mixed scores gradually decreases, and it becomes more likely to identify fake accounts among those who rate poor-quality posts. Additionally, a trend in the development of large forums is to encourage members to provide ratings, as after all, the public has sharp eyes. 2. More in-depth and interesting topics are encouraged to be rated by moderators and members, with a unified rating scale for such topics that is slightly higher. 3. Let’s discuss the scoring criteria. 4. No matter what the good topic is, a score of 5 or more responses is required before evaluation can take place, and this requirement is raised to ensure an improvement in quality. Long-term benefits: Gradually improve the quality of discussions, gradually encourage members to learn*, and pave the way for enhancing the quality of interactions within the forum. Possible side effects: The overall number of posts in the mechanical equipment category has decreased. But temporary hardships are inevitable; the forum must not rush for quick results. While some sections strive to meet basic needs, we will work toward a high-quality life! Temporary detours are for big strides in the future! 5. As a complementary measure, the number of moderators to be managed needs to be re-evaluated; this is under consideration, and efforts are being made to overcome the drawbacks of managing merely for the sake of management. Initially, the following reform measures are planned for the bonuses allocated to moderators: 1) Super moderators will determine the total salary for first-level moderators based on the quality of discussions in their respective sections and the number of excellent posts, with it being up to the first-level moderators to decide how these bonuses should be distributed. 2) Increase the weight assigned to evaluating the number of topic posts guided by moderators, while reducing the weight assigned to the number of management tasks. Bonuses are awarded by the top moderator based on performance. 3) The criteria used by super moderators to evaluate sections are: Communication Quality Factor × Number of posts in that month = Section Quality Factor. The total bonus amount is determined based on this value. The Communication Quality Factor is calculated as the number of posts with more than 10 valid replies, divided by the total number of topic posts selected randomly by the super moderator on a given day; this calculation is done twice a month and the results are published. Those who participate in these discussions and provide insightful or in-depth replies receive scoring rewards. We will always stay at the forefront of the forum! ! This post was last edited by rgsmdqy on 2009-3-19 06:05.]
It’s really necessary to have extra editions, but the number of participants isn’t large, and even fewer people are able to engage in in-depth discussions. I hope we can find a moderator with expertise who can foster active discussions in this community. I’m not a mechanical engineer, so I can hardly participate in discussions. I hope the management will consider my suggestion; I plan to resign. This post was last edited by zzg5680 on 2009-3-6 10:59.]
There is one issue: some posts that are quite challenging are also of good quality, but perhaps fewer people are aware of them, so fewer people can respond. What should I do?
I support the island master’s decision. If the island master says to fight somewhere, then we’ll fight there
Here are a few of my views: 1. For more in-depth and interesting topics, the moderator’s scoring scale sets the value at 20-30 in terms of wealth, with an additional 1-2 points for charm being possible as well. 2. I think the criteria for scoring should fall within the authority of the moderators, who can decide on them as appropriate. 3. For good topics, the scoring criteria should be increased; for those that receive no responses or few responses, moderators should take charge of recommending and managing such topics. 4. To gradually improve the quality of discussions and encourage members to learn more, thereby finding a way to enhance the quality of communication on the forum. It is a beacon on the path forward for our Mechanical Engineering Department. March forward toward the light, with unwavering determination! 5. I believe that, under the wise leadership of the Jiji community’s Tao version, it will surely achieve greatness! This post was last edited by lxzzl on 2009-3-6 11:54.]
In my opinion: 1. Outstanding people generally don’t come to forums, so first of all we need to gather those with strong practical technical skills in our own section. With experts on the forum, many problems can be solved. The question is how to retain top talent. 2. For posts with high technical difficulty, no one replies – why is that? From observations over the recent period, it’s been found that many people come to the forum either to ask for help or just to post messages in order to gain some benefits, and then they end up demanding a large amount of information from the forum. The problem arises again: many people think that our rating system is not strict enough. As a result, numerous moderators assign ratings to the replies under each post. New members, once they have earned enough points and downloaded the necessary materials, may leave and never return. That’s why it’s necessary to set high access requirements for our materials, so as to make them more attractive. 3. We need to organize more events to increase popularity; there are various forms of such events, which can be tailored according to our own sections. (That’s all I can think of for now.) This post was last edited by zhangya*ong on 2009-3-6 at 12:03.]
As the moderator zzg5680 said, I’m not from this field, so there are some things I don’t quite understand. The number of posts in our area is decreasing day by day, especially since the practice of posting one post per day was stopped–it’s undeniable that leadership responsibility is involved here. It’s very important to have moderators who can lead by example; aside from me, all the moderators in our area are real* moderators, and with the exception of www557, almost no one else participates much in discussions. I’d like to discuss this with the island owner and suggest hiring a few moderators who are from this field. Also, too few people participate in technical exchanges; many of those who take part in the daily questions do so merely to make money~ This post was last edited by 263525689 on 2009-3-6 at 12:15.]
1. Many highly skilled experts inevitably spend a lot of time on their work, and may not have time to come to forums to help others solve problems. We need a way to encourage these experts to visit our forum, by providing them with what they need; I can’t think of any solution for now. 2. In the area for technical exchanges, more posts on sharing experiences on how to improve skills could be added. Many people who come to our forum are beginners; they may not be able to get involved when they see a problem. Adding more posts for experience sharing can increase popularity, and it also shows beginners the way forward, helping them avoid unnecessary detours. 3. As the forum develops, the points of its members should generally increase. To prevent some people from stopping coming back after downloading materials, we can further enhance the permissions related to downloading such materials.
May I say something? I just resigned at the end of last month. It’s not that top talents can’t be retained – it’s HaiChuan that doesn’t keep its people. Some posts that are just imitations or simple replies receive a score of 5, while those with in-depth discussions get a score of 10 or 1 charm point. I think if Kaichuan is to develop better, it needs to make those who truly possess knowledge feel that they are treated differently from the others here. But have we achieved that? How many middle and high school students have appeared on HaiChuan recently (including me)? Are they really professional? This post was last edited by wode*aohei on 2009-3-6 13:02]
Our **feature is to achieve common prosperity; on this basis, it is acceptable for some people to become wealthy first. The topic also has a certain aspect to it – if it’s too sophisticated, it becomes too difficult to handle, and as a result, far fewer people will be willing to participate. It’s an undeniable fact that topics that are more accessible to the general public are the ones that attract people.
1. I suggest that the moderators of each district could categorize the posts in their respective districts (I haven’t decided on the criteria yet) and conduct a survey to see what topics people are most interested in! It is necessary to take corresponding measures. 2. The people have sharp eyes; each member can also express their own opinions, which makes things more **! Then our moderators will discuss together and make a decision.
Suggestions that might offend people: 1. Our current rule for being an official moderator is that one must be in at least the fifth grade; isn’t that a bit low? In my opinion, one should only be eligible to hold this position in the tenth grade of primary school or the ninth grade of junior high school. If the moderators are not competent, how can the section be managed properly and its quality improved? 2 Questions regarding high-quality articles and good topic posts. Some people are in senior management or work in technical fields; theoretically, there’s no problem, but in practice they don’t understand the basics and even get things wrong. Some people are good at hands-on work; they lack skills in summarization and logic, yet they have genuine knowledge, but their written posts don’t look good. Both of these people are experts; how should one determine the scale for scoring them? It might hurt people’s feelings if not handled properly. Fortunately, I’m not a moderator, so I don’t have to worry about it. Thank you all, moderators – it’s up to you to lead us forward in the Machinery and Equipment section tomorrow. Tomorrow will be better
I think the professionalism of the moderators is the most important! Only in this way can the detailed evaluation be put into practice!
I strongly support this proposal. The number of management actions should not be increased just as a way to fulfill arbitrary goals; it is necessary to address actual problems, boost the popularity of posts, and enhance their technical quality in order to achieve that^_^
The sector indeed needs major reforms to shift from quantity to quality; I have the following ideas: 1. The criteria for scoring should be raised, and the score ranges should be expanded. It’s not necessary to rate every post, but for in-depth posts, the rating range provided by the forum is currently too low. Relying solely on the number of responses as a scoring criterion is not sufficient; it would be best to make the decision based on the joint evaluation of multiple moderators or team members. 2. Do not rate many posts that do not require scoring; posts such as those in which someone pretends to be in need of certain resources or claims to lack the necessary permissions should not be rated. This helps to prevent the tendency to obtain things without working for them, and it enhances the quality of members moving from level two to level three. It ensures that new members reach level three by actively participating in discussions, thus retaining talented individuals based on their quality. 3. Regarding the issue where downloaded materials disappear for new members, I believe it is necessary to increase the download permissions. Many people upload files without setting any download restrictions; it would be best if the forum set the default download permission at 20, meaning that members can only download materials after reaching level 3. By that point, members are generally familiar with the forum and have developed an attachment to it, so they are less likely to leave. That’s all I can think of for now; I’ll add more later
Beyond professional skills, I believe that responsible moderators, as well as hardworking ones, are good moderators. The most important thing for a moderator is management; even if their professional skills are relatively weak, responsible moderators will seek advice from others to improve the community’s popularity. As their knowledge grows, they will become more competent moderators! Therefore, as a moderator, having a passion for one’s own forum and a positive attitude are the most fundamental requirements. For many posts that don’t have much practical value, it’s important to make some choices rather than simply focusing on the number of posts. Just as we need GDP, and even more so green GDP, we need posts, but even more so high-quality posts!
Improving popularity and enhancing the quality of questions are two relatively contradictory aspects. Members of this community come from various fields, with significant differences in their ages and years of experience; many of them also have different professional backgrounds. What is simple for professionals can be very difficult for those without relevant expertise. Therefore, improving quality takes time, and it’s important not to discourage beginners too much. Thus, balancing quality and quantity is a challenging issue to address. As for the overall goal of Haichuan Forum, I believe it should be to embrace diversity and gradually improve both standards and quality. However, without a sufficient number of members, the forum will lack popularity, making it hard to ensure high quality. One of the necessary measures is to strengthen the scoring of good responses and impose penalties on perfunctory ones.
Support for Moderator Zhang’s suggestions: 1. Slightly increase the reading permissions for the materials we make available for download, so as to prevent some people from downloading them merely for that purpose. 2. Everyone should read more materials and learn more; make good use of the resources available on the forum, acquire more knowledge, and help others solve their problems. 3. All spam posts and irrelevant topics should be deleted, without worrying about the decrease in the number of topics and posts in one’s own section
A suggestion: 1. Raise the permissions for downloading materials; the minimum permission should be 20, 30 for ordinary materials, and over 50 for high-quality materials； 2. To reduce water usage, posts with low response quality or those that are merely a compilation of others’ responses will not be rated. 3. There are an excessive number of repeated topics and requests for help on the forum, which makes it very chaotic. For example, in some request-for-help posts, there are already numerous similar discussions on the forum; in such cases, a reply like “Search first before asking for help – the issue has already been resolved” should be given, and then the topic should be moved to the trash folder ； 4. There is no requirement for a certain number of posts; there are many low-quality posts in various sections, but as long as they do not violate the forum rules, it’s just that their quality is poor. For example, posting a piece of text that offers nothing new – similar content can be found in abundance on the forum. But I rarely delete such posts; mainly because the current rules do not encourage deletion, unless it is malicious spamming. 5. Posts of a \"theoretical\" nature account for a significant proportion in the machinery category, while those focusing on practical on-site experience make up less than one-tenth of them. I’m not sure whether I understand how to define \"high-quality\" posts as mentioned by the moderators, but since this is a forum, it’s always good to have exchanges and sharing of experiences. Such posts can be considered high-quality, without necessarily needing to be highly complex, theoretical, or requiring high levels of technical expertise. We support such exchanges but do not aim to push theoretical discussions to their extreme limits. 6. Regarding the management measures for sector development, there’s no need to rush things or make frequent changes; wait until in-depth investigations and research have been conducted first.
The development of the forum relies on everyone’s joint efforts – we need to reduce spam and post high-quality content; it requires the combined effort of you and me
I have a suggestion: There are some request-for-help posts on the forum, and it seems that the issues were resolved through everyone’s replies. I hope the moderator will promptly summarize the correct answers, stop further responses to this question, and move it to the “Sharing” section. Another point is that I feel the grading by some class instructors might be too arbitrary and subjective. Some answers that were clearly childish received high scores, while some more profound responses did not get good or high ratings.