How much does SHELL cost exactly?
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There are various opinions regarding the cost of SHELL’s production processes. When it comes to producing the same amount of syngas, some say it is 20% more expensive than that of Texaco, while others claim it is 50% more expensive; figures of 70% and 100% have also been mentioned. Now that so many SHELL manufacturing plants are in operation, is it possible to determine exactly how much investment SHELL needs to make? As a benchmark, for a Texaco plant with a coal input of 2,000 tons per day, the entire gasification island requires approximately 250 million yuan. How much does a SHELL gasification unit that can handle 2,000 tons of coal cost (excluding the air separation unit)?
It seems that the RMB has appreciated; the entire gasification complex for a Texaco plant with a capacity of 2,000 tons requires only about 250 million yuan. Can it be built? Does it only include the equipment purchase cost? If air separation is not included, it seems to lack much meaning for comparison; it might even give the impression of comparing the long with the short. Using this as a benchmark, it would be difficult to build a gasification island of similar scale to Shell’s even after doubling the size roughly: lol
Answer: This is capital investment for a plant capable of producing 600,000 tons of methanol. The gasification section consists of three units, with two in operation and one as a backup; each unit has a capacity of around 1,500 tons. The investment for one unit is just over 200 million yuan, so the total investment for the three units is approximately 700 million yuan, with it not exceeding 800 million yuan. If you have more accurate figures, please feel free to correct me. Regarding air separation, SHELL has lower oxygen consumption, but there is not much difference in the cost of air separation equipment between the two; therefore, there’s no need to compare them in this regard. If you have specific reasons, feel free to share them. This post was last edited by happydavy on 2009-3-25 17:17]
SHELL is no less than 5 Ys.
With the same investment, using a single series of Shell process units – excluding commissioning, production preparation costs, and land costs – it should be possible to build a gasification island that goes from coal preparation to the output of crude syngas. The variation will not exceed 50 to 100 million; if a dual-series approach is used, an additional 300 to 400 million may be required. With careful planning and proper control, it is also possible to keep the increase within the range of 200 to 300 million. Nonsense, don’t take it seriously
:Lol :lol :lol Thanks for the extra points, but it would be better to give more, as for our plant, 1200 tons of coal per production line requires 5 Y units (excluding the costs related to commissioning). To get the unit up and running successfully within three months, including costs for air separation, gasification, purification, and synthesis, at least 20 million is needed (I’m telling you quietly; based on the commissioning experiences of companies like Shuanghuan, Liuhua, Yueyang, and Anqing, the actual costs are several times higher). I know what I’m talking about! Don’t engage in SHELL if you don’t have much money; don’t do it if you don’t understand the rules for introducing projects; don’t undertake SHELL if you’re not enthusiastic about it, as the ammonia consumption won’t decrease much in such cases. Those who are dedicated to working with technology should not learn those so-called clichés that keep repeating \"the best in the world.\" . . ”,“The best in the world.” . . ”,“The best in the world.” . . ”Be careful, or you might not be able to catch your breath. . . . . . This post was last edited by bwq on 2009-3-26 14:46]
For SHELL gasification, if a methanol plant is to be built, investment accounts for half of the total cost; for a methanol production facility with an annual capacity of 600,000 tons, the investment in the gasification unit alone will be no less than 1.2 billion. In a single production line, 2,850 tons of coal are processed per day.
A mystery that can never be solved!
Thank you for the information. It seems it will be quite expensive; our factory is still considering it.
2000T, not less than 1 billion: lol
A Texaco plant with a capacity of 200,000 tons per year costs around 2 billion yuan; a Shell plant costs 2 billion yuan as well (as for the capacity of Datang’s plants, it’s not clear). Who can afford that? It’s really unbearable. Let’s choose something else instead.