Let’s discuss changing the rule from banning same-IP scoring to banning bulk, meaningless mutual scoring
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As the forum grows and the number of users increases, it becomes difficult to distinguish users with the same IP address manually; ordinary members do not have this capability, unless they use an IP address viewer. The same-IP ratings given by some members aren’t entirely meaningless either; therefore, it is being considered to change the rule from \"prohibiting same-IP ratings\" to \"prohibiting bulk of meaningless mutual ratings\". In other words, the IP address will no longer be a factor – what matters is whether the content being rated is meaningful. For example, if someone replies with something of little value and is rated 3 Wealth points by another person, and this happens only once or twice, then no action is needed – a reminder would suffice. However, if such content receives 5 Wealth points or more, and these two people frequently give such ratings, then points should be deducted in accordance with the current rules for same-IP ratings. Additionally, the procedures can be simplified; it can be carried out as long as three superiors give their approval. ______ What are everyone’s thoughts? Feel free to add more details
I agree with both points, but it’s difficult to determine the appropriate scoring scale. It is recommended that the manager set different maximum scores for various types of posts, such as those related to books, standards, materials, discussions, and topics. If a score exceeds this maximum value, it should be considered malicious scoring, and appropriate action should be taken against the person who gave that score.
In the initial stage, it mainly focused on batch-based, meaningless mutual evaluations
Stop making changes. If you want to prohibit it, then simply disable regular members’ rating rights. Peace in the world… This post was last edited by Welcome on 2009-3-26 21:42.]
Agreed! As the saying goes, “Promote the worthy without regard for kinship.” I believe the only criterion for deciding whether to rate something and what score to give it should be the quality and relevance of the original post or the reply. If it’s a meaningful post, a valuable post, then what’s wrong with giving it the same rating as an IP? But if it’s an obviously meaningless post, a rating is still given. Even if it’s not from the same IP, I think it doesn’t make sense; it should be corrected. In short, I agree with the boss’s proposal. This post was last edited by wyg1004 on 2009-3-26 21:57.]
As long as it has value, it can be rated. Especially in large companies like ours, where thousands of people use a local network, they all have the same IP address. So it is still recommended to rate anything that is valuable!
Agreed; this is more user-friendly. Meaningful ratings from the same IP should be encouraged, while malicious ratings must be severely punished
There’s no need to change it, right? For the current IP ratings, we also take into account whether those ratings are valuable. If a post is valuable, we won’t take any action against it
Regarding the rule prohibiting scoring from the same IP address, I am against abolishing it; at least it serves as a deterrent, otherwise malicious scoring will become even more unrestrained. Several moderators have already expressed their views: as long as the ratings are reasonable, even if they come from the same IP address, they will be considered carefully. On the contrary, malicious peer reviews must be firmly suppressed, regardless of whether the other party uses the same IP address or not. Giving 15 points to just a simple sentence will discourage other members from engaging in discussions, and ultimately it will harm the forum; this is absolutely unacceptable. This is also why I posted warnings three times. Additionally, it should be noted that unintentional or malicious mutual rating is easy to identify, and no member will be wronged as a result. Last edited by chengkang on 2009-3-27 07:08]
It’s not super important, but I’d like to say that dedicated moderators can be appointed to evaluate and assess scoring issues. Find the right person to handle whatever task it is
I’m glad to see the forum developing and becoming more user-friendly. In fact, with the same IP scoring system, as long as it is fair and reasonable, and there is no extensive mutual evaluation over a long period of time, it should be acceptable. On the other hand, when it comes to different IPs and frequent mutual evaluations, along with a large number of inflated ratings, that is clearly an unfair and unreasonable situation, which I think is even worse. As the old saying goes: “When recommending someone from within, one need not avoid relatives; when recommending someone from outside, one need not avoid enemies.”
Agreed! I don’t know how to check whether it’s the same IP rating; I also don’t want to spend time figuring it out. I think it’s sufficient to just check whether the content posted by an individual is commensurate with their rating.
Agreed; some companies use the same IP address for many of their machines, so all the messages sent out will come from that same IP address. This has been reported countless times. What’s important is to give appropriate ratings – if the replies to a topic are meaningful and the ratings given are reasonable, then it’s completely acceptable. This is a sign of progress in forum management. These days everyone talks about harmony, and forums should also be harmonious. I support the boss’s suggestion.
You’re right; it should be carried out according to the boss’s reforms. This shows that the forum is making further progress!
Indeed, it’s sufficient to evaluate the score and its necessity; I agree. However, there is no approval for an updated version yet. This post was last edited by yzhms on 2009-3-28 12:05.]
I wholeheartedly approve of this move! The previous ban on same-IP scoring did have some effect, but it also punished many people unfairly. As discussed earlier, a company may have only one IP address, but it can have many employees working there; they might not even be aware of each other’s existence. If ratings are given, it becomes a problem when people rate each other using the same IP address. Now, it’s been decided that bulk, meaningless mutual rating is prohibited, regardless of whether the users share the same IP address or not. It’s reasonable to give ratings within the rules set forth; however, it’s not allowed to assign high scores to posts that are pointless or of little value. Moderators just need to make sure to adhere to this rule. Based on the above analysis, I agree to this change in the rule. O(∩_∩)O~ The above represents only my personal opinion; it is entirely original and copyrighted, so please do not reproduce it! O(∩_∩)O~
Agreed! I agree with the boss’s proposal. I have felt it deeply for a long time. What does \"same IP\" mean? It’s just that the addresses are the same! Does it mean that people from the same place can’t go to the rivers and seas at the same time to interact? The philosophy of HaiChuan is to \"embrace all rivers\". Rating is a way of giving recognition and approval to good topics and good responses; as for how many points to assign, it depends on the quality. It is up to the moderators to determine whether a rating is malicious or spammy; if they consider a rating to be unreasonable, they can impose sanctions as appropriate. It’s really as some people say: “If it’s a meaningful post, a valuable post, then what’s wrong with giving it the same rating as other posts from the same IP?” But if it’s an obviously meaningless post, a rating is still given. Even if it’s not from the same IP, I think it doesn’t make sense; it should be corrected. ” That’s indeed the case. The goal of our Machinery Section this year is to \"improve the quality of communication\". Since I became a moderator, I have always followed the rules and guidelines set by the leader when assigning ratings, never going beyond those boundaries. I’ll do whatever the boss decides! By the way, the boss is seeking opinions on the super version; please don’t worry if my opinion isn’t correct. This post was last edited by lxzzl on 2009-3-30 11:34.]
With this change made by the leader, it covers both the phenomenon of malicious reviews among entities sharing the same IP address and those given by \"acquaintances\" to each other; such a definition is quite reasonable, so we will follow the leader’s instructions.
Recently, I saw the seniors having intense discussions, repeatedly emphasizing that mutual rating among projects using the same IP is not allowed. Let me share our situation: we are currently in the project construction phase, and our project team is quite large, consisting of over 100 people; there are many issues at the early stages of the project. Everyone come to the ocean of HaiChuan technology to explore its offerings. Indeed, I have seen posts on the forum that are of high technical quality. Since mutual rating with the same P is not allowed, one has to check the other party’s IP address before each rating. I’m asking the boss now if there’s any good way to find out who is in our IP range in Shanghai Chuan Because everyone is quite busy with work and is in Haichuan; I don’t even know what their names are there in Haichuan. So please, boss, advise me on a method, or use your higher authority to provide a list. Thank you! ! ! Hehe.