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For chemical engineering projects that are currently in the civil construction phase, what issues need to be taken into consideration?

2009-04-03View Original

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Our company is currently carrying out construction work, and as technical staff, we often go to the site to inspect things. We find that the construction team is extremely irresponsible. As people in charge of processes, we don’t know much about structures. What issues should we pay attention to? This post was last edited by laiqi on 2009-4-10 12:51]
Reply #22009-04-04
Is there a supervisor? With professionals in charge, as a process engineer, the main task is to ensure that the pre-embedded plates are checked properly so that the civil engineering team does not remove them.
Reply #32009-04-04
That’s easy – if there’s a contract, follow its provisions; if not, as the owners, you can simply deduct the money from their construction company! The most direct way to deal with them is to go and argue with the project manager, as the people under him usually won’t pay much attention to you. I’ve handled it this way before; give it a try to see if it works.
Reply #42009-04-04
Have your company issue a suspension order, and require the construction party and the supervision party to conduct a thorough self-review. If they weren’t careful from the start, more problems will arise later on. If the foundation isn’t laid properly, things will become even more complicated later.
Reply #52009-04-04
Well, it seems that your company hasn’t found a good civil engineering construction team either. If you listen to me, persuade your boss to change the construction team as soon as possible. We’ve learned a harsh lesson from this. Also, find a few people with some knowledge of civil engineering to form an on-site supervision and inspection team that goes there every day to conduct inspections and take photos
Reply #62009-04-04
After all, the technical requirements for civil construction workers are relatively lower. It can’t compare to the installed one. However, civil engineering is extremely important as a foundation. It is recommended that the poster contact the technical supervisor or technician of the civil engineering construction company. A proper project must have a detailed construction plan, and they should carry out the work strictly in accordance with the plan prepared by the civil engineering technician. Strengthen the supervision by the supervisors, while preventing them from being bribed by the construction units. It would be best for the property owner’s company to assign a civil engineering technician to supervise the site. We work in the field of manufacturing; it’s best not to interfere with things we’re not familiar with on our own. When they realize you really don’t understand much, they become even more irresponsible and start deceiving you...
Reply #72009-04-04
Be careful not to get the dimensions of the embedded anchor bolts wrong, as that can lead to serious problems. Construction teams with poor technical skills often make mistakes in this regard.
Reply #82009-04-04
The positioning dimensions of the equipment are very important and need to be verified.
Reply #92009-04-04
As engineering and technical personnel, one can work together with civil engineers to inspect the pre-arranged elements, embedded components, and equipment foundations, to ensure they are reasonable and appropriate, thus laying a solid foundation for the subsequent installation work.
Reply #102009-04-04
My personal insights regarding civil construction are as follows: 1. Observation and measurement: The installation of equipment and pipelines is usually carried out by referencing the structure of the civil engineering works, with those measurements serving as a basis for installation. Therefore, surveying and setting out in civil engineering are particularly important. Installation measurement reports and completion measurement reports are essential. 2. Embedding and reservation: In civil engineering design, this aspect is often easily overlooked. Technical personnel responsible for pipelines and equipment should be able to identify these issues easily, and such issues and requests should be raised in a timely manner. If the civil engineering work omits this part, it will cause more or less trouble in the future, **and annoyance is very likely to arise. 3. Civil engineering has its own construction standards and acceptance requirements, but when it comes to civil work involving critical equipment and interlinked systems (where multiple devices are installed together), other disciplines should put forward their requirements for such civil work, such as installation tolerances. For example: 30mm is acceptable for civil engineering work, but in such cases, other disciplines require a precision of 10mm or higher from the civil engineering team. 4. Concurrent operations: In certain spaces, taking into account factors such as transportation routes, as well as the space required for installation and work, it is necessary for other specialized teams to cooperate in advance by preparing the necessary space or delaying construction. If these issues are not given proper consideration, there will be a lot of repetitive work later on, and it will be quite cumbersome.
Reply #112009-04-05
You’ve come to the right person. I just finished a project, and the situation is exactly as the original poster described. For civil engineering tasks, the project team should have professionals in charge; the supervisor is responsible for overseeing the work on site. The construction company is held accountable, and contracts serve to bind them. If they really don’t do their job properly, as the owners, you can definitely warn them or even replace the construction team! As a person involved in process development, my main task is to verify the civil engineering requirements specified in the process, such as various embedments, equipment foundations, and holes to be pre-made in the floor slabs. It is best to check the drawings carefully and communicate more with the civil engineering staff, so as to identify problems before construction begins.
Reply #122009-04-05
Thank you all. It’s impossible to convince the boss; I’ll just have to work harder and go to the construction site more often! Identify errors promptly and stop them; propose changes!
Reply #132009-04-05
Baseline points must be determined prior to civil construction in order to locate the foundation; The key aspects of civil engineering construction are surveying and setting out, selection and installation of formwork, steel bar binding, and concrete pouring ; At the same time, test blocks must be prepared and sent for inspection in accordance with the specifications.
Reply #142009-04-06
In addition to finding a legitimate construction team, it is also necessary to sign a detailed contract and hire a responsible construction supervisor.
Reply #152009-04-07
I’m dizzy. :Q Doesn’t your company have anyone who understands civil engineering, or have you hired a supervision service? If you don’t know much about it, how can you conclude that the construction was done carelessly? The current situation is that the management of construction teams is irregular; the group is a mixed bunch with a strong element of lawlessness. It would be mild to say nothing critical about them. As a process engineer, during the civil engineering phase, it is sufficient to pay attention to the equipment positioning as well as the embedded and reserved components.
Reply #162009-04-08
Isn’t there anyone in the project department who specializes in civil engineering? How could craftsmanship be in charge of that?
Reply #172009-04-09
Sympathy. We’re in the same situation as you – we deal with all kinds of craftsmanship-related tasks, and there’s no good solution; everything just gets passed around from one person to another. One must work hard, run around more, give more instructions, and carefully check the blueprints. If nothing else works, negotiate with their boss
Reply #182009-04-10
Leverage the efforts of your safety management departments, project teams, and supervisors to manage construction safety. First of all, safety management personnel should increase their inspections on site and immediately stop any violations they detect. Violations by the construction party should be taken into account when deducting amounts from the contract payment. The project team members, acting on behalf of the company as the owner, should maintain more communication with the construction party’s management to put forward safety requirements. The supervisor shall take the lead in reviewing the construction plan. For hazardous operations, it is also necessary to strictly adhere to the regulations as required by the company. Tools and special equipment used in construction work also need to be inspected before being brought on site and while in use. Special operation personnel also need to consider working with a valid license. Safety education and awareness for construction workers are also essential. Passive safety devices: safety nets, safety belts, signs, etc. are also essential.
Reply #192009-04-16
Civil engineering work should be managed by dedicated personnel specialized in this field. The process engineering team focuses on aspects such as the elevation of the foundations, whether the location of the foundations matches what is specified in the process design, and whether the dimensions of the foundation anchor bolts correspond to those of the equipment.
Reply #202009-04-16
Regarding quality, please ask the supervisor to help oversee things. The main things to check include whether the dimensions, coordinates, and elevation of the equipment foundations fall within the limits permitted by the standards; whether all necessary openings have been created, and whether their sizes meet the design requirements; and whether any embedded components have been properly installed.

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