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Should the completion documents for the installation company be prepared in accordance with the standards of the petrochemical industry or those set by the Ministry of Chemical Industry?

2009-04-15View Original

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Should the completion documents for the installation company be prepared in accordance with the standards of the petrochemical industry or those set by the Ministry of Chemical Industry?
Reply #22009-04-15
Don’t ask this question here; go ask the owner. Do whatever the owner asks for. We’ve seen every kind of situation, but in the end, it’s always the owner who decides.
Reply #32009-04-15
Yes, it’s best to set it out right after starting work, so as to avoid making changes later.
Reply #42009-04-15
The contract should specify the standards for project acceptance, including the standards to be applied to the completion documents. If these standards are not defined in the contract, it is necessary to discuss them with the owner and the supervisor prior to construction in order to determine the appropriate standards for the completion documents. Some can be categorized by specialty: for example, civil engineering documents in Jiangsu Province follow the regulations set by Jiangsu Province itself, while installation-related documents can comply with those of Sinopec or the Ministry of Chemical Industry; boiler installation documents, on the other hand, should adhere to the standards set by the Ministry of Electric Power. Specific usage should be discussed with the owner.
Reply #52009-04-15
1. In cases specified in the contract, those provisions shall be followed; for matters not specified in the contract, the two parties (the contractor and the client) shall negotiate and proceed in accordance with a supplementary agreement. 2. It is recommended to check with the local quality inspection agency to find out if there are any specific requirements. For reference!
Reply #62009-04-15
What is the difference between the two approaches? Could someone give me an introduction? What are the respective bases?
Reply #72009-04-15
I think it’s better to follow Sinopec’s requirements for the installation materials; the standards set by the Ministry of Chemical Industry seem to no longer be updated, and they are based on old methods.
Reply #82009-04-15
Which of these two is more commonly used at the moment? What is the standard reference number?
Reply #92009-04-15
It was done according to the owner’s requirements; If the owner does not put forward any requirements, it shall be handled in accordance with the general contractor’s *usual practice ; If the owner does not put forward any requirements, and the general contractor has not established such a practice or is unable to do so, then it shall be handled in accordance with the practices of the installation company ; If the owner does not put forward any requirements, and the general contractor has not established such a practice or is unable to do so, and the installation company also has not established such a practice or is unable to do so, then no action needs to be taken: the project is likely to be stalled. Newbie + newbie + newbie – the project isn’t that difficult at all: lol, just kidding. Please refer to: http://bbs.hcbbs.com/thread-315357-1-1.html. This post was last edited by yxbj on 2009-4-15 at 16:17.]
Reply #102009-04-15
For chemical projects, follow the submission form requirements set by the Ministry of Chemicals; for petrochemical projects, adhere to the requirements specified for the petrochemical industry.
Reply #112009-04-15
It is best to follow the requirements of the owner’s archives department, as the final documents generally need to be submitted there. Now there are those categorized by petrochemicals, those by oil, and also those by chemicals
Reply #122009-06-21
8# kiss62: Petrochemical standard code: SH3503-2001; Chemical industry standard code: HG20237-94. They are more or less the same; it depends on what the client requires.
Reply #132009-06-21
Follow the requirements specified in the design institute’s design notes, as well as those set by the local supervision and inspection authorities; this will make the acceptance process smoother
Reply #142009-06-22
This depends on the requirements of the property owner as well as those set by local quality supervision agencies and other relevant parties
Reply #152009-06-22
In principle, the reference standards are specified in the project implementation plan; however, in practice there is considerable flexibility, and it is up to the owner and the installation party to negotiate
Reply #162009-06-22
1. SH3503 standards are used for preparing completion documents for state-owned enterprise petrochemical projects, non-petrochemical projects of such enterprises, projects of foreign-invested enterprises that have relevant requirements, and so on. 2. For other chemical engineering projects, the decision is generally made by the project owner, the general contractor, and the supervision company; in some cases it is up to the owner alone, while in other cases the owner has no understanding of the matter at all, and in yet other cases the supervision company decides everything. In any case, there are not many options available, and in most situations, the standards HG20237 issued by the Ministry of Chemical Industry are used as a reference. 3. I have been involved in preparing the completion documents for a petrochemical project, as well as for a polysilicon project; it wasn’t anything special – I just followed the requirements. 4. The technical documents for the completion of petrochemical plant construction specify SH3503, while those for the completion of chemical plant construction specify HG20237; the difference can be discerned just by looking at the names. It would be fine to actually study it a bit. It’s all available in the forum’s resource section.
Reply #172009-06-22
It is the owner who provides the forms and specifies the requirements for the documents, and the construction party fills them out in accordance with those requirements. Therefore, it is necessary to consult the owner. If the owner cannot provide the forms, they may ask the construction party to create them, and once they are prepared, they are submitted to the supervisor or the owner for review and approval before implementation.
Reply #182009-06-23
Let’s see what the owner or quality inspector requires

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