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Eliminate the torch = eliminate the eternal flame of the torch? Is there any company that has truly managed to eliminate permanently lit lights?

2009-04-15View Original

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Eliminate the torch = eliminate the eternal flame of the torch? Is there any company that has truly managed to eliminate permanently lit lights?
Reply #22009-04-15
It doesn’t seem to have been eradicated in China! We can only increase the utilization rate!
Reply #32009-04-15
I seem to have read somewhere that some of Sinopec’s refineries have eliminated the constant-lit lights? Isn’t that right???? :handshake :victory:
Reply #42009-04-15
Can an eternal light be extinguished? ? ? If it is turned off and an accident occurs, with emergency pressure release, a large amount of gas cannot be burned and is released instead; this not only has an impact on the environment but may also lead to an explosion. The eternal flame must not be extinguished; our organization has extinguished the torch, but we dare not let the eternal flame go out.
Reply #52009-04-15
The torch in our unit has gone out; as long as the gas pressure is not high and a permanent flame is not required, along with an automatic ignition system, it is functioning well at present.
Reply #62009-04-16
I’m currently facing a problematic headache: the pressure transmitter on the torch control line is affected by the gas composition; crystallization and blockages interfere with the measurement signals, which prevents the automatic shutdown of the permanent lights. Is there any reliable solution to address this issue with the pressure signals??????
Reply #72009-04-16
As far as I know, in oil refining and petrochemical companies in Europe and the United States, the eternal flames in their torches are not allowed to go out. (For safety reasons) In our country, it is recommended to turn off the perpetual lamps. (Potential improvement and efficiency enhancement) Everyone can choose the view they agree with: lol
Reply #82009-04-16
Go out, go out. Wait until one night, when there’s a sudden thunderclap; think about how it will sound in Xiao Hu’s ears, and see how they react ? ? Energy conservation and consumption reduction should also be approached depending on the circumstances, right?
Reply #92009-04-16
There are now ground-based incinerators. Even if you click, no one will see it; we use ground-based incinerators here. To ensure timely ignition during emission, 150 KG of liquefied gas is consumed daily.
Reply #102009-04-17
A perpetual flame torch usually refers to a perpetual flame on an elevated torch. From a safety perspective, it is safer to have a light on rather than not, but keeping a lamp lit constantly wastes fuel. Therefore, when deciding whether to keep a perpetual light on, the following factors generally need to be considered: 1. The type and size of the enterprise. Small refineries are of limited scale, usually equipped only with atmospheric and vacuum distillation units as well as small catalytic units; they generally do not operate permanent flares. Large enterprises have numerous facilities and high processing capacities; if the flares fail to ignite or cannot be lit in a timely manner, it could lead to environmental pollution, with significant social consequences. Unless their higher-level management authorities explicitly stipulate that ignition is not necessary, no enterprise leader would dare to take such a safety risk. 2. Size of the gas holder capacity. If a facility has gas tanks with a capacity of over 100,000 cubic meters and a reliable overhead flare system, it may be possible to do without using an eternal flame. If the gas holder capacity is less than 60,000 cubic meters, it is advisable to consider installing a permanent flame. 3. Are there any ground torches? If a facility has gas tanks with sufficient capacity, as well as ground flares of appropriate size and a reliable overhead flare lighting system, it may be possible to dispense with the use of an eternal flame powered by an overhead flare. 4. Is the overhead torch ignition system reliable? This is the most crucial factor; if it cannot be ignited in a timely manner when needed, the company will face serious problems – it may be ordered to suspend operations for rectification, and in severe cases, legal liability may also arise.
Reply #112009-04-17
The eternal flame cannot be extinguished, but the combustible gases emitted can be recovered in some way. The eternal light can be considered the last barrier to safety
Reply #122009-04-29
Basically agree with the 10th floor! 2. Size of the gas holder capacity. If a facility has gas tanks with a capacity of over 100,000 cubic meters and a reliable overhead flare system, it may be possible to do without using an eternal flame. If the gas holder capacity is less than 60,000 cubic meters, it is advisable to consider installing a permanent flame. Ordinary enterprises do not have gas tanks of 100,000 cubic meters; the regulations also state that at most one gas tank with a capacity of 30,000 cubic meters may be installed. 4. Is the overhead torch ignition system reliable? This is the most crucial factor; if it cannot be ignited in a timely manner when needed, the company will face serious problems – it may be ordered to suspend operations for rectification, and in severe cases, legal liability may also arise. Which company can guarantee that the torch system is absolutely reliable? Didn’t the torch system at Sinopec Maoming Petrochemical have an issue?
Reply #132020-10-12
An ever-burning lamp, as the name suggests: it stays lit all the time. There is a gas tank with a capacity of 100,000 cubic meters. If an emergency release occurs, the flow rate will be very high; if all of that gas is discharged into the tank, will the piston inside the tank be able to handle such a high speed of movement?
Reply #142020-10-15
Can even the eternal flame of the torch be extinguished? This money too needs to be saved, and one dares to save it. Has a security risk assessment been conducted? Otherwise,. . . . . You know. With our previous system, the eternal flame torch consumed approximately 200 Nm3 of natural gas per hour; after switching to a new type of eternal flame, only 2–3 Nm3 of natural gas is needed per hour. It is both safe and cost-effective. These are areas where savings should be considered.

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