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I think I can be considered a veteran member of Haichuan as well; I’ve always treated Haichuan like my own home, feeling that it is a place where there is equality, friendship, and mutual assistance. I believe many members share this feeling. Initially, I joined Haichuan to download materials, but over time, with the aim of improving my skills, I found myself falling in love with it without even realizing it. I remember not long ago, Haichuan was shut down for 8 hours. I think many users, just like me, were extremely anxious on that day, checking Haichuan every 10 minutes or so to see if the servers had been repaired. Could it be that these long-time users are all eager to improve their skills? Or download the materials? I don’t think so entirely, right? At least I really like the atmosphere of equality, friendship, and mutual assistance at Hai Chuan. I remember that Taomu Chaoban once asked me whether I would still use Haichuan if there were no technical discussions or relevant materials available there. I replied firmly that I would, because Haichuan has Taomu as its moderator. Although that was a compliment, it’s true that there are many friends I love on Haichuan. When I’m free, I often go out to spend money on the internet; maybe the reason is simply to get Haichuan’s red envelope. My wife asks why I’m still in such a hurry to level up I ask myself the same question: if I already have enough wealth from downloads, why bother upgrading? I thought about it carefully, and I believe my motivation for striving to upgrade is to repay those friends who have helped me; being able to rate them makes me happier than being rated myself. But now, we regular members have fewer and fewer privileges – we can no longer rate charm, and we can only assign low scores in terms of wealth. The gap in rights between me and the moderators is also growing larger; I can already sense this inequality in our status. Maybe they used to be friends with the boss, but now it feels like a superior-subordinate relationship. As a form of protest, I decided not to post or give ratings for half a month. Of course, in order not to undermine the leader’s efforts, I used an alias; I didn’t want my friends to support my protest, as after all, protest isn’t the goal – our aim is to make Haichuan better. Hehe, I also want to ask the boss to consider it – is controlling inflation really that important? The RMB is also continuously losing value, but this is precisely an inevitable consequence of the ongoing development of our great motherland. I hope my boss will consider my opinion carefully. Last edited by sorrow on 2009-4-18 11:14]
I support the earliest rating system, the version where members could rate attractiveness. Only time will tell whether the current regulations are good or bad! The boss definitely won’t allow the conversion of RMB into wealth. In that case, some level of inflation isn’t a big deal!
I found yesterday that my scoring limit has been reduced to 5 points each time! This post was last edited by brucehan on 2009-4-18 10:38]
Dude, you only registered on April 18, 2009, and have posted just one thread – do you really count as a \"veteran member\" of Haichuan? Did you cancel your original UID and register again? Otherwise, how can we explain this to you, a \"veteran long-time member\"?
It’s easy to explain – it’s just an alias. When I say I’m an old member, I don’t mean that this account is also an old member. From the post replied to by the moderator, it can be seen that when moderators rate members, they pay more attention to whom they are rating rather than the content of the replies. Because you pay close attention to the number of posts I make and my registration date, but you don’t care about the content of my posts... I’d like to ask the admin to reduce the privileges of us regular members (and of course, there’s a possibility that these privileges might be completely removed in the future). If that happens, we can leave our upgrades up to the moderator. In that case, I want to write a new guide on how to upgrade quickly – please note, new members: if you want to upgrade fast, you don’t need to share information or engage in technical discussions. But you must constantly flatter the moderator, because... well, I guess I don’t need to explain why I’m sorry, lxq700918 Banzhu – it’s not that I have any issues with you personally, but the cleaning supervisor indeed has caused conflicts between us regular members and the management team. It’s just that we might be the first two on this forum to have a dispute over this issue.
Being the best version of yourself is the true way to go: handshake. The upper limit has been reduced, but the total amount has increased as well; in other words, the number of rating opportunities has gone up, eliminating the hassle of seeing great posts that haven’t received any ratings. We come to the forum not just to level up; what’s most important is that we participate in discussions, improve through them, and make friends. If you have good posts, feel free to send a message to the relevant moderator; I’m sure they will give them a fair rating. You can also send a message to me, and I’ll do my best:handshake.
The level of permission to assign scores does not affect communication and learning; our goal is not to score, but to learn and communicate. Rating is a supplementary tool for communication. Any adjustments made to the forum are implemented after careful consideration by the forum administrator. Of course, there might be occasional errors, but everyone should not worry too much about them, rather focusing on supporting the reform and development of the forum. Haichuan motto: Learn together*, improve together!
Speaking without a mask for a moment. From the conversations on the 1st and 2nd floors, one can sense the deep affection you have for Kaichuan; in comparison, I feel inferior! Especially over time, far fewer people have come. I didn’t want to say anything, but I still feel the need to express my feelings; by sharing my worries with everyone, I can also feel a bit better! Criticism is welcome. Regarding score systems and other forum adjustments, I remember sending short messages to the administrators in the past to put forward some suggestions; overall, I think it’s better to maintain continuity, as there aren’t really any fundamental differences in principle. It would be great to conduct a public opinion survey first before making each adjustment. Regarding ratings, first of all, the forum’s rating criteria are quite vague, and moderators have a lot of discretion when assigning scores. We generally don’t give many ratings either; we usually rate only our own replies or posts that we think are truly excellent. I don’t really pay attention to the numerical values, but at this level, one should still retain certain rights. The affection that many long-time members have for Haichuan is Haichuan’s most precious asset. I really want to manage the ratings well; let’s start by becoming a moderator. Last edited by wzk1998 on 2009-4-18 at 13:14.]
Didn’t you see that he came wearing a vest? People on the internet use fake names to speak the truth; how could he use his real name to do the same?
Hehe, I agree with most of what was said regarding the deep sea super version. However, there’s one thing I’m not quite clear about: what is the purpose of this adjustment to the scoring permissions? I guess it’s to address the serious issue of peer evaluations among certain senior members? I think that since the Deep Sea Ultra Edition believes that doing one’s best is the key, it shouldn’t try to solve the problems of individual people by restricting the permissions of all members Also, the total amount for the evaluations has increased; I think this is meant to encourage more peer evaluations among senior students After all, as one moves to higher grades, no one will post fewer posts; if every post is reviewed, it could lead to even worse consequences. Of course, the leaders’ goal might not be this, but within the limits of my understanding, this is what comes to mind as a possibility. Because I really don’t want to use political philosophy to analyze this issue. Hehe, I think ratings can promote communication and improvement; giving high scores can facilitate better communication and progress. What do you think, Deep Sea Super Edition? Who doesn’t hope to receive recognition in return for their efforts? I remember that on the forum, a certain expert there showed us that he managed to earn 300 units of wealth in one day; we were all very impressed by that, and we’re sure he must have been very happy. Well now, no matter how hard he tries, it seems that 200 units of wealth will be the maximum he can earn (currently, the scoring system allows for about half as many points as before, and since the moderator’s privileges haven’t been reduced, it’s estimated that 200 units of wealth is the upper limit), provided that he doesn’t offend the moderator of his forum section. It feels like the income has decreased by 1/3; I think no one would want to try it. Isn’t this a huge blow to the enthusiasm of outstanding members?
Since the upgraded version of ttlkk says that scoring is not the goal, then why change the permissions related to scoring? Additionally, what we are discussing here is the advantages and disadvantages of this issue for the forum, rather than which leader made the decision. I believe the boss’s intentions are good, but our intentions are also good. But I can’t just agree to this decision just because it was made by the boss; after all, it’s difficult for anyone’s judgment accuracy to exceed 50%. If my judgment accuracy were 51%, I would go into stock trading – I’m sure I could get rich that way. That’s why we need to bring up the issue for discussion; this way we can understand it more deeply. I believe that this time the leader has heard many people’s opinions, but I boldly guess that most of the opinions he took into consideration were those from moderators and higher-ranking leaders. I remember there being a saying: listening to multiple perspectives leads to clarity, while listening to only one perspective leads to confusion. I hope the leader will pay more attention to the opinions of ordinary members.