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Who has more authority, the thermal power shift supervisor or the chlor-alkali shift supervisor?

2009-08-03View Original

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The last edit to this post was made by sunjl1981 on 2013-1-6 at 23:41. Chlor-alkali industry says that ion exchange membranes are expensive; protecting these membranes means protecting the profitability of the entire company; Thermoelectricity says that without thermoelectricity, everything is in vain. In work, the chlor-alkali plant and the thermoelectric plant often end up in conflict, each sticking to its own arguments, which sometimes affects normal production. Let’s all discuss how each company coordinates and manages these two workshops # hcbbs
Reply #22009-08-03
If the production department’s supervisor fails to exercise effective command authority, then there is nothing but to let the two workshops argue and fight among themselves. Therefore, the responsibility of a scheduler is to possess authority for unified command; this authority is not granted by any leader, but is established through one’s own wisdom and courage. Both workshops surely emphasize their own importance; in reality, they are just making excuses for their own self-interests, without truly considering things from a holistic perspective. Nothing is absolute; everything has its fundamental reasons for coming into being and developing. The same is true for production coordination; the thermal power shift supervisor should give more consideration to the smooth operation of the chlor-alkali process, strive to eliminate his own shortcomings, and communicate more with the chlor-alkali shift supervisor. The same applies to the chlor-alkali shift leader; when directing production, it is necessary to take full account of the characteristics of thermal power operation in order not to catch the thermal power system off guard. It is also important to communicate more with the thermal power shift leader. In short, everyone needs to maintain a proper mindset, think in a holistic way, and adopt the mindset of \"ants on the same rope\".
Reply #32009-08-03
Haha, that’s a good question. I used to be a shift supervisor in the thermoelectric sector, and now I am the section manager in the chlor-alkali industry. When I was a shift supervisor, I said that shift supervisors had a lot of power; when I became a section manager, I said that section managers had more power. In the end, everyone is only concerned with their own interests, without considering the overall interests of the team.
Reply #42009-08-03
Everything must serve production; of course, the production scheduler has significant authority. If there are faults in the electrical equipment of the power plant, it is necessary to report this to the scheduler, who will then adjust the load on the chlorine-hydrogen production system based on the electricity demand
Reply #52009-08-03
Both have equal rights! It’s just that the responsibilities are different. Both aim to coordinate production in order to ensure a balanced and stable economic operation; if the thermal power shift supervisor issues orders to increase or decrease load, the chlor-alkali shift supervisor should communicate with the thermal power shift supervisor and cooperate as much as possible within the limits permitted by production conditions ; The same goes for it! This situation is encountered frequently, but since the load fluctuations are significant in the chlor-alkali industry, it is necessary to carefully decide which equipment to start or stop in order to achieve economic optimization!
Reply #62009-08-04
The two shift supervisors have equal authority; both must ensure the production of heat and power as well as chlor-alkali products under the unified coordination of production scheduling. They must consider the needs of the other party while focusing on their own production tasks: the heat and power shift supervisor must take into account whether the chlor-alkali plant can operate safely and steadily while overseeing the operation of the heat and power plant, while the chlor-alkali shift supervisor must ensure the stable operation of the heat and power plant while focusing on the operations of the chlor-alkali plant. Only by considering each other’s needs can the production costs be minimized and profits maximized for both the heat and power and chlor-alkali sectors.
Reply #72009-08-04
We’re also very troubled by this issue; our situation is even more complicated, with two phases of the power plant and two control systems, which makes it extremely chaotic – deciding whether to increase or decrease something.
Reply #82009-08-04
I believe the head of the thermal power unit and the head of the chlor-alkali unit are on an equal footing; it is the responsibility of the production scheduling center to coordinate the relationship between the two plants. The thermal power unit is an energy supply unit – without energy, how can production take place? Chlor-alkali plants are units that produce products; how can a company that does not produce anything make a profit? Therefore, while ensuring safe production, the dispatch center should adjust the operating load of the electrolyzers in the chlor-alkali plant based on the operating conditions of the thermal power plant. Of course, if load adjustment is required due to the demands of the chlor-alkali plant, it is necessary to contact the thermal power plant promptly to understand its impact on power generation, and the dispatchers will make a decision based on the actual situation. Of course, in many cases, companies generally give priority to efficiency.
Reply #92009-08-04
I have worked in the Production Management Department for three years, and there has never been any disagreement or conflict regarding production scheduling and coordination among us. Because our production plan is determined based on market sales; first, we determine the production volume of the chlor-alkali plant, and then consider whether the energy supply from the thermal power plant is sufficient. In the event of maintenance work on the steam turbines or electrical circuits, the power dispatch team will contact the power supply agency to coordinate matters related to power supply levels (we rely partly on the main power grid and partly on internal power generation; the ratio between external and internal power supply is approximately 9:5). I’m not sure what the situation is in your case. When it comes to deciding whether to prioritize heat retention or the preservation of chlor-alkali substances during actual production, it is a test of the dispatchers’ professional skills and emergency response capabilities. These dispatchers have all worked in the branch plants for several years, and it is their experience and familiarity that determine the quality of their handling of such situations.

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