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[Estimation] I hope everyone can give an estimate~

2009-08-23View Original

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Master’s degree in Chemical Process Machinery from a legitimate university on a full-time basis (not from a 211 Project university); recent graduate; score of 500 on the CET-6 exam; holder of a certificate as an assistant translator in business English; owner of two patents (utility models); **holds certificates for four types of non-destructive testing: UT, RT, MT, and PT. What conditions should be offered to recent master’s graduates with no work experience who are joining our company for the first time under such circumstances? PS: Although postgraduate degrees aren’t highly valued these days, I hope everyone will give an honest assessment~
Reply #22009-08-23
Master’s degree in Chemical Process Machinery from a regular university on a full-time basis (not from a 211 university) – In the case of non-211 universities, it’s important to consider the actual strength of the specific major offered. If the university is average but the major is very strong, then it’s still acceptable. However, if the major doesn’t even have a doctoral program, then even if it’s a 211 university, the quality of that major will still be poor. Therefore, it’s important for the applicant to check the ranking of that major in China and determine whether it’s one of the strong majors at that university. A score of 500 on the CET-6, along with a certificate as an assistant translator in business English – To be honest, a score of 500 on CET-6 is a bit low. The translation certificate isn’t very useful either; it’s not as meaningful as a certificate for advanced interpretation skills. But it’s still okay; it shows that the person has at least some interest in English, since they went the effort to obtain such a certificate. There are two patents (utility models), as well as certificates in four types of non-destructive testing: UT, RT, MT, and PT. ---The first item isn’t very meaningful; the latter ones aren’t clear either. Personally, I don’t think they provide much insight. But generally speaking, such people should have been quite diligent during their postgraduate studies, spending a lot of time in the laboratory. Objectively speaking, those who stay stuck at school as postgraduates are usually not among the most talented or outstanding ones. By the time they’re in postgraduate studies, they can already earn several thousand yuan per month outside, so they likely don’t have time to work on developing patents. As for the price, I suggest the original poster refer to the local market prices. Since it’s not a 211 university, frankly, this factor can be offset by his additional certificates. I think he can be treated as a student from an ordinary 211 university.
Reply #32009-08-23
I think it’s based on the unit; currently, these units generally don’t care about which school you graduated from. At the beginning, the salary is the same for everyone, with little difference between those with a bachelor’s degree and those with a master’s degree.
Reply #42009-08-23
At the moment, new assets are losing value; it mainly depends on one’s future prospects for development
Reply #52009-08-23
Personally, I think your salary might be around 500 more than that of a bachelor’s degree holder. After all, this is just the beginning; don’t pay too much attention to this number. My view on a master’s degree is that it provides more opportunities for choice; for example, qualifications are taken into account when it comes to promotions, and a master’s degree is required to work in design firms. Wait, for work in design firms, a college graduate might perform just as well as you. This is a low-level use for a master’s degree. 2 If you can develop good study habits while studying, refine your character, and build a network of contacts, then these can be considered experience – whether you call it work experience or life experience. These factors may not show up in your salary right away, but they help you progress more smoothly and faster. 3 There is still a gap between postgraduate studies and actual work. It’s possible that those achievements of yours won’t be useful at all in actual work; normally, everyone has to learn from scratch*. Education is just a business card; you hold it, and only then will they let you in. It is still recommended that the original poster prioritize career development opportunities when choosing a job. The starting salary isn’t something to be ignored, but it should not become a reason for giving up a truly good job. One of my seniors, a few years ago – it’s a bit early to talk about it. Back then, a large state-owned pharmaceutical company was recruiting employees, offering a salary of 800 per month for undergraduates from 211 universities; yet no one wanted to take that job at that time. He went there and worked for about two years, learning everything that needed to be learned for that field, and then an opportunity arose, allowing him to transfer to a company on the Fortune 500 list. This development process is not even a little bit better than those with starting salaries of 1500 or 2000. But how many make such a choice? Keep it up, OP.
Reply #62009-08-23
All of these you mention are just stepping stones in the job search process. Companies will at most offer a slightly higher salary for having a master’s degree compared to those with a bachelor’s degree – but not by much, perhaps up to 500; in some cases the difference is even smaller. No company will pay more to someone just because they have passed the CET-6 or hold a few certificates they’ve never heard of before. And the specific issues regarding treatment. It mainly depends on what profession you have. At chemical engineering design institutes, even if you’re a master’s graduate in chemical engineering from a university like Tianjin University or Zhejiang University, rather than one from a 211 institution, your starting salary is just a little over 1K ; At Sinopec’s refining and chemical companies, regardless of whether you have a bachelor’s or master’s degree, or whether your university is part of the 985 program, everyone has to work shift work (although masters students work fewer hours than undergraduates, but they still have to work shifts during their first year). In my opinion, your question isn’t about valuation, but rather about what kind of job one can find. I’ll mention a few I know to give you some reference. For those with a master’s degree in chemical engineering, some decent career options in this field include: various chemical engineering design institutes, the design institutes of CNPC and Sinopec, foreign-owned engineering companies, the nuclear power industry, specialized inspection agencies at the provincial and municipal levels, as well as certain research institutions related to this field... Consider carefully where you think you can fit in. And don’t expect too good treatment in these places either. Take chemical engineering design institutes, for example: in the first 3 years after graduation, don’t expect to earn much money – it will only be enough to support yourself. PS: In your case, not being part of a 211 university is a significant drawback; certificates and patents can only serve to complement that situation. Of course, this doesn’t apply if it’s a well-known chemical engineering school that isn’t part of the 211 program, like Nanjing University of Chemical Technology.
Reply #72009-08-23
I’m also a recent graduate. Based on my own experience, there’s a one-month trial period, and if things go well, the salary can be increased. Perhaps newcomers have the potential to surpass those with more experience – it’s just a matter of time and experience.
Reply #82009-08-23
In my opinion, educational attainment does not equal ability, and salary does not equal the quality of one’s work
Reply #92009-08-23
Based on the standards of our company, without a score of 500 on the CET-6, a certificate as a business English assistant translator, two patents (utility models), and certification in all four non-destructive testing methods – UT, RT, MT, and PT – the salary ranges from 2,000 to 3,000 yuan. With these things, 1500 yuan is enough. Think about it: a person spends only 3 years in master’s studies, and if they spend that time on such useless things, how can they learn thoroughly or well?
Reply #102009-08-23
I’m giving LZ a reference salary for fresh master’s graduates in chemical engineering from our company (based in Beijing, a petrochemical design firm with 400 employees). This is just for reference – please don’t scold me. The salary is 2600 yuan before taxes; after one year, it could range from 3600 to 4000 yuan, depending on your actual performance over that period. PS: Graduates with a bachelor’s degree earn 2200 yuan
Reply #112009-08-23
It can’t be put that way; a postgraduate’s CET-6 score is equivalent to an undergraduate’s CET-4 score, and it’s a basic requirement! They are conducting research, which is why they have two patents, right?

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