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Who tampered with the design?

2009-09-03View Original

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There was a fire station in the original design of a company's installation area. No one made any comments during the drawing review. The project was about to enter the construction stage. At the last meeting, the fire station was inexplicably canceled. The person in charge of the company reasoned that the cost was too high and it was just a decoration with no practical significance. The money saved might as well be spent on giving the fire department food and drinks. Later, this concept was accepted by some people. It would be better to invite relevant departments to build a fire station. Safety first, safety responsibility is more important than Mount Tai. How could everyone become so childish?
Reply #22009-09-03
The most abnormal thing in the country: Safety is on the lips of leaders every day, and safety slogans are flying all over the place. But the safety awareness from the leadership down to the employees is pitiful. There is also a phenomenon in our company. In order to save money, ordinary manual valves are used for the fire water control valves at the edge of the installation area. So if a fire really breaks out, who dares to go to the fire scene to tighten the valve?
Reply #32009-09-03
There should be fewer such things happening now. Where are the two laws and regulations?: "Production Safety Law of the People's Republic of China" and "Fire Protection Law of the People's Republic of China". Take a look at the accidents that have occurred in chemical plants in the past two years. Any one of them was not investigated and dealt with with great intensity. According to the principle of whoever designs, whoever is in charge is responsible, once a fire and explosion accident occurs, the responsibilities will be defined based on the investigation results after the accident investigation is completed. Then the people who originally changed the design, made the final decision, and accepted the completion include: * * Relevant personnel from the competent departments will be dealt with accordingly. If the circumstances are serious, he will be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not less than three years and not more than seven years. Human life is more important than God. We must not forgive those who ignore life. From the perspective of protecting ourselves, we cannot save money that should not be saved!
Reply #42009-09-03
It's inconsistent with the original design. He will get a lot of money during the inspection and acceptance.
Reply #52009-09-03
If the fire station must be set up in accordance with the regulations, then the fire acceptance will not pass.
Reply #62009-09-03
Such things abound! There are not many quality owners!
Reply #72009-09-04
The main thing is to see whether it meets the fire protection requirements. If it is canceled but still meets the requirements, it means that the design was unreasonable in the first place. Otherwise, it is not allowed and the fire protection inspection should also fail. Treating them to a meal can solve the problem. I don't think they have the courage.
Reply #82009-09-08
According to the fire protection regulations for chemical installations, if there are fire protection facilities that meet the fire protection conditions of the installation (including foam fire protection and dry powder fire extinguishing systems) within 5 minutes of the installation, the fire station can be cancelled. However, if the design institute takes the fire station into consideration in the design after understanding the surrounding conditions, it means that the installation of the fire station is necessary and must not be a trivial matter.
Reply #92009-09-09
We still can’t be sloppy when it comes to fire protection, so what if we treat someone to a meal now? If something goes wrong, will the person who is eating stand up and speak to you? Why don't you just memorize it yourself? This kind of approach is really deceiving you.
Reply #102009-09-09
I feel that this leader 1) knows that he wants to be transferred 2) does not pay attention to safety and only values ​​relationships 3) is about to retire 4) can cancel the fire station after accurate estimation 5) is waiting to be investigated after something happens.
Reply #112009-09-10
It is a tragedy that something like this happens. However, the fire inspection and acceptance in many places on site are already very strict. No one dares to change the most basic things. Once an accident occurs, the person responsible needs to bear criminal responsibility.

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