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2009-10-26View Original

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The key aspect of a three-phase separator lies in that area; please give some guidance on how to design it. Answer: The question itself is the key point, and different people have varying opinions on what constitutes the key element, which is why there are various types of three-phase separators. I have a few personal insights to share with everyone: (1) What is the function of a three-phase separator? A: It is to retain a sufficient amount of active sludge inside the UASB ; B: Screen the sludge. When designing, focus firmly on the main functions while also taking into account the auxiliary functions. (2) When designing a UASB, it is necessary to estimate (determine in advance) the particle size and specific gravity of the sludge (whether the sludge will be in granular form in the future), as well as the size of the bubbles produced by the sludge. (3) Understand the principle of “sludge loss” in UASB. I believe that the reasons for loss are varied, but under normal operating conditions (not during periods of acidification, without acute poisoning, without hydraulic or load shocks, …), the loss is gradual, and catastrophic outcomes result from the accumulation of long-term problems. Sludge loss is caused by the bubbles attached to the sludge; when the \"cluster\" formed by the sludge and these bubbles moves at the same speed as the water flow, it gets carried away. (4) The importance of \"theoretical calculations\" is far less than that of engineering experience and lessons learned; and understanding these lessons relies on \"theory\" – otherwise, blind \"improvements\" will yield only half the results with twice the effort. (5) In addition to process-related issues, engineering problems such as mechanics, materials, corrosion prevention, etc., should also be addressed; often, small problems can lead to major issues, just as a long dike can be destroyed by ant holes. (6) Cost is also a major issue; prices in the past were not normal, and now competitiveness through better design and other technologies is necessary. Question: What is the proportion of domestic UASB units that reach their designed load? I’ve heard that in China, the proportion of equipment capable of producing true granular sludge using UASB is less than 50% – is that correct? Answer: The day before yesterday, a Ph.D. student from Tsinghua University was talking with my friend about the current situation of UASB, and he said: It’s not good at all! Last month, someone in our “club” also pointed out this issue. Be polite and ask about the situation regarding reaching the design load In other words, it is the designer who rates themselves. We in our small unit don’t know much about the overall situation in the country. But indeed, a lot has been seen and heard, and everyone is not optimistic. In my opinion, the reasons are: (1) People have overly high expectations for UASB ; (2) Making too many promises to the owner, resulting in overly high expectations on their part ; (3) Designers read a lot and conduct few experiments; the experimental time is not long enough, so they dare to use any kind of water ; (4) The designed load is too high; it does not take into account unfavorable factors such as fluctuations in industrial production, low operational levels, and poor quality of equipment, etc ; (5) Some environmental protection equipment manufacturers are acting recklessly, focusing only on securing projects without caring about delivering high-quality work ; (6) The stability of UASB is problematic in itself; my colleagues at the research institute say that UASB is like a weight loss drug – anyone who uses it loses weight. So, we are now using MIC. MIC has better stability than UASB. (7) If there are problems with the UASB, it costs money to replenish the microorganisms ; It takes time—to re-debug. Question: What is the main core of three-phase separator design? How is its angle determined based on water quality and process parameters? How to prevent mud from appearing in the water outlet and how to overcome the foam problem? Answer: The key (core) of the three-phase separator is to ensure that the amount of sludge generated is greater than the amount lost, so that the amount of sludge in the reactor increases. Anything that can achieve this goal is a \"good\" three-phase separator; don’t be constrained by form, and don’t fall into the shackles of those who came before. So, I say too much and it increases the risk in this regard; it’s better not to say anything. It’s impossible to prevent mud from coming out with the water; there’s no need to try. Question: How to cultivate granular sludge? It is said that in domestic UASBs, it is extremely difficult to cultivate granular sludge with high treatment efficiency. Answer: Once the type of wastewater and the reactor structure are determined, granular sludge is not cultivated; it is a result, a product of design and operation. Do you mean that there is no granular sludge in domestic UASBs? ! I basically agree, but not all domestic UASBs lack granular sludge; I know that some UASBs maintain good granular sludge over a long period of time. The relationship between granular sludge and treatment efficiency may not be as you think. The removal efficiency of anaerobic pollutants is more closely related to factors such as the type of wastewater and the retention time, rather than whether granular sludge is present. So, “granular sludge with relatively high treatment efficiency.” ”There may be two objectives here: one is processing efficiency, and the other is granular sludge.
Reply #22009-10-27
Is MIC Suzhou University of Science and Technology? A student of Teacher Ma?
Reply #32009-10-27
1. What type of wastewater is suitable for UASB technology? What are its requirements for the quality of the incoming water? Or rather, what impact does the quality of the water entering the system have on the use of this technology? Answer: No one knows \"what type of wastewater is suitable for UASB technology\"; asking such a question is a serious mistake! Test it with water: if the BOD5 removal rate can be maintained stably (within plus or minus 5%) at around 90% over a long period of time (more than 6 months), and if the amount of sludge in the system increases along with sufficient production of biogas. This kind of water can be treated using UASB. Talk less, go to the lab! 2. What is the main core of three-phase separator design? How is its angle determined based on water quality and process parameters? How to prevent mud from appearing in the water outlet and how to overcome the foam problem? Answer: The key (core) of the three-phase separator is to ensure that the amount of sludge generated is greater than the amount lost, so that the amount of sludge in the reactor increases. Anything that can achieve this goal is a \"good\" three-phase separator; don’t be constrained by form, and don’t fall into the shackles of those who came before. So, I say too much and that increases the risks in this regard; it’s better not to say too much. It’s impossible to prevent mud from coming out with the water; there’s no need to try. Foam isn’t a problem; why bother overcoming it? 3. How should the water distribution system of UASB be designed to achieve better treatment results? How to design something that can create effective natural mixing? How to prevent channeling and dead zones from forming as water passes through the sludge bed? It is common these days to install perforated pipes at the bottom of UASB tanks, and then use pumps to draw in the water. What impact does this method of water distribution have on the treatment efficiency? Answer: The relationship between the water distributor and treatment efficiency is not very clear. Stirring is not achieved through hydraulic force, but because \"air\" is lighter than water. Reactors with good gas production may not have this problem. As for the impact of the water distributor on treatment efficiency, I don’t have any quantitative data to support it; I’m not sure, so I dare not make any claims. What do you all think? Who has quantitative data to support their view? You guys do some research. These types of water distributors are fairly usable. 4. How to cultivate granular sludge? It is said that in domestic UASBs, it is extremely difficult to cultivate granular sludge with high treatment efficiency. Answer: Once the type of wastewater and the reactor structure are determined, granular sludge is not cultivated; it is a result, a product of design and operation. Do you mean that there is no granular sludge in domestic UASBs? ! I basically agree, but not all domestic UASBs lack granular sludge; I know that some UASBs maintain good granular sludge over a long period of time. The relationship between granular sludge and treatment efficiency may not be as you think. The removal efficiency of anaerobic pollutants is more closely related to factors such as the type of wastewater and the retention time, rather than whether granular sludge is present. So, “granular sludge with relatively high treatment efficiency.” ”There may be two objectives here: one is processing efficiency, and the other is granular sludge. 5. How is the stable operation of the UASB system controlled? I believe that in current biochemical treatment processes, control is often based on individual experience, with a lack of established methods; this constitutes an obstacle to the development of this technology. It is therefore very necessary to develop systematic control methods. Answer: This is the key to the anaerobic problem. Some “experts” strive for high loads, aiming to reach such and such a number of kilograms (they refuse to stop until they achieve astonishing figures)! And the truly main goal in engineering is “stability”.
Reply #42009-10-28
The responses are incisive; good. I’ve learned something new; thanks to the original poster.

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