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Is it still possible to invest in coal indirect liquefaction projects?

2010-01-05View Original

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This post was last edited by jordan569 on 2013-1-6 at 19:51. I haven’t been here for a long time due to business trips. I recently had a change in job, and my company has assigned me responsibility for managing projects related to coal indirect liquefaction as well as IGCC projects. However, last year the National Development and Reform Commission issued a regulation stating that no other coal-to-oil projects are allowed, aside from those two specific projects mentioned. I’m not sure whether such projects are still permissible at present I also hope to meet some friends in the field of coal chemical engineering; I will be coming here to swim regularly. You can add me on MSN: mokpoche@hotmail.com. Those who are in Beijing are welcome to visit my company as well. . Note $ # , $ $
Reply #22010-01-05
I’m not aware of what kind of company you are; you do seem to be quite cautious when it comes to coal-to-oil projects, including those involving indirect liquefaction. The indirect liquefaction plants that use Sinocat Synthetic Oil technology operated by companies such as Yitai, Lu’an, and Shenhua are all currently at a capacity of over 100,000 tons per year, and large-scale production has not yet begun. It seems that these plants focus on research and development, and they are not considered official coal-to-oil projects approved by the National Development and Reform Commission. At present, the only projects that officially possess birth permits are Shenhua Group’s direct coal liquefaction project, and the indirect coal liquefaction project in Ningdong, Ningxia, carried out through a partnership between Shenhua Ningxia Coal Industry Group and South African company Sasol. The National Development and Reform Commission generally does not approve coal-to-oil projects with an annual production capacity of less than 3 million tons. In my opinion, until current indirect liquefaction plants reach a scale of millions of tons, it is **impossible to approve new indirect liquefaction projects**. It’s unclear which of Shenhua, Yitai, Yankuang, or Lu’an will be the one to secure this large market share and pioneer million-ton-scale indirect liquefaction. It is also possible to collaborate with Sasol in South Africa, compare domestic technologies with imported ones, and choose the best option. In short, with the future of coal-to-oil uncertain, **extreme caution will be exercised regarding coal-to-oil.
Reply #32010-01-05
Thank you so much! My company is also in the energy sector; it’s a foreign-owned company. Its ranking this year seems to be 75. As a result of structural changes, I’m now responsible for coal indirect liquefaction, and I really don’t know what to do. . . Our company doesn’t have any notable technologies in this area; as for funding, we’re not sure where to start. If the policies remain such as they are, then isn’t it difficult, or even impossible, to carry out coal indirect liquefaction projects? Please give me some advice on my work
Reply #42010-01-05
There are no technical issues with the IGCC project, nor any problems related to scaling up the process on an engineering level. In simple terms, it involves a gasifier along with boilers and turbines for power generation – it’s a quite straightforward process. The key is to secure a reasonable electricity price for internet use; if the current price is used, it will result in huge losses!
Reply #52010-01-05
Domestic coal indirect liquefaction technology is currently at the pilot scale stage; the main projects are being carried out by Yitai, Lu’an, and Yankuang. Yitai uses the slurry-bed process developed by Shanxi Coal Chemical Research Institute, Lu’an employs the fixed-bed process from the same institute, while Yankuang utilizes a process of its own development; In addition, Shenhua has invested in Zhongke Synthetic Oil Co., Ltd. (a company affiliated with the Shanxi Coal Chemistry Research Institute), and it is also collaborating with South Africa’s Sasol Company on a project for the indirect liquefaction of coal from Ningdong. That’s roughly the situation; the first three companies were reported to have successful test runs at the beginning of last year.
Reply #62010-01-05
4# Wangmingfei: The IGCC project seems quite reliable; I’m already working on a report.
Reply #72010-01-05
What is the main bottleneck in the indirect liquefaction of 5# sccheung? The gasification part? Or a catalyst?
Reply #82010-01-05
Go ahead, create jobs, drain public finances, encourage steel mills to produce steel, encourage coal miners to extract more coal, and encourage global temperatures to rise sharply until Victoria City is submerged.
Reply #92010-01-06
IGCC needs a gasification unit. The investment will also be significant, and the feed-in tariff needs to be **coordinate with other factors as well.
Reply #102010-01-06
Indirect liquefaction has not yet seen significant industrialization, and the barriers to entry are high at present. 2# wangmingfei
Reply #112010-01-06
If working in the energy sector, biomass oil production could also be considered. In the initial stage, the scale of biomass-based oil production is generally not very large, around tens of thousands of tons per year; it’s not like coal-based oil production, which can reach several million tons per year, and thus approval for such projects is quite difficult. Biomass also aligns with various **policies** such as CO2 reduction, circular economy, low-carbon energy, fuel substitution, and rural development; essentially, almost all the policies that are currently in place can be related in some way to biomass energy.

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