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Visa issues during equipment installation

2010-05-15View Original

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I would like to ask the experts: Are any permits required for minor issues that arise during equipment installation? 1. During the alignment process of large motor units, if the equipment does not come equipped with adjustment bolts, is it necessary to obtain a permit after the construction team fabricates those bolts? If a permit is required, who shall bear the associated costs? 2. If, during the equipment installation process, some of the equipment is not suitable or there are issues with the accessories – such as the alignment bolts of the reciprocating machine’s flywheel needing to be reworked due to poor concentricity, or cracks in the valve gland – does the construction party need a permit to address these problems, and are such tasks included in the equipment installation cost? 3. During the installation of large-scale units, when the civil engineering team carries out grouting and the installation team oversees the process, is a visa required? Please give some guidance, thank you! ! !
Reply #22010-05-17
This post was last edited by 110488654 on 2010-5-17 08:41. 1. The national standard quota does not specify any requirements for adjustment bolts; another item, namely costs for other materials, is taken into account during calculations. In the equipment installation project, it is only specified that the anchor bolts are included as part of the equipment. Now you need to check the design drawings to see if there are any instructions regarding adjustment bolts, or if this is mentioned in the construction plan, and then discuss it with the client. 2. The alignment of the flywheel mounting bolts on the reciprocating machine is not optimal; hole expansion is required. Answer: We usually ask the client to carry out this work. If it is to be done by the construction party, proper communication is necessary first, and in principle, it can be approved through an official voucher. The valve gland is cracked. Answer: There is a quality issue with the equipment; it’s up to the contractor or the supplier to resolve this problem. I have encountered this situation before. 3 The installation rates specified in the first volume of the National Unified Installation Quotas, which deals with mechanical equipment installation, already include costs related to equipment grouting. If it is done by civil engineering contractors, we usually only conduct inspections; in that case, you play the role of a supervisor. Is a visa required for grouting by the civil engineering unit and supervision by the installation unit? Answer: If it’s basic work, the owner will at most give you a small payment. If it is indeed grouting, you still need to deduct this cost from the quota. The questions you raised are all very detailed and good; my suggestions are for reference only
Reply #32010-05-17
The first and second points mentioned by the original poster can definitely be covered by a visa. Article 1: The accrued material cost and processing fee shall be applied; if finished products are purchased, only the material cost will be counted. Article 2: In such a situation, the first party responsible for handling it is the manufacturer; if the manufacturer is unable to handle it for other reasons, it can be entrusted to the contractor or the owner for handling. If the manufacturer is not at the factory or cannot be reached, the contractor can be entrusted by the owner and the supervisor to handle the matter. All of these can be visa-approved. Third, generally, after the installation unit has completed the installation and the work has been inspected by the owner’s supervisor, a commission form for primary and secondary grouting must be issued together with the installation unit to the civil engineering contractor, before the latter can carry out the grouting work. The quality of grouting is the responsibility of the civil engineering contractor. I believe it is very necessary for the installation unit to send personnel to monitor the site, either if they are not confident in the civil engineering team or in order to ensure that subsequent work can proceed smoothly. But this cannot be used for a visa. The sample form of the commission letter is as follows: Commission Letter for Grouting of Equipment Foundation – First Time 1. Project name: 2. Name of the specific construction unit: .. 3. Identifier of the grouting equipment: 4. Number of the grouting foundation: 5. General technical requirements for grouting: (1) Thoroughly clean all debris and oil residues from within the anchor bolt holes or on the surface of the foundation ; (2) Rinse the holes of the foot bolts or the surface of the equipment foundation with clean water ; (3) Perform the first grouting of the equipment foundation using the concrete grade specified in the civil engineering drawings. 6. Special technical requirements for grouting: 1) Fine aggregate concrete should be used for grouting, and its grade should be one level higher than that of the foundation concrete ; 2) The holes for the anchor bolts must be filled to the height of the rough surface of the foundation at one time; filling in stages is not allowed. 7. Precautions for grouting: 1) Before grouting, any water or debris accumulated in the anchor bolt holes must be removed completely ; 2) During grouting, it should be compacted tightly, and the anchor bolts must not be distorted or affect the installation accuracy of the equipment. Grouting commissioning party, Grouting receiving party, Date of grouting commission, Date of receipt, Desired grouting date, Grouting date, Committer, Recipient
Reply #42010-05-17
I would like to ask the experts: Are any permits required for minor issues that arise during equipment installation? 1. During the alignment process of large motor units, if the equipment does not come equipped with adjustment bolts, is it necessary to obtain a permit after the construction team fabricates those bolts? If a permit is required, who shall bear the associated costs? 2. If, during the equipment installation process, some of the equipment is not suitable or there are issues with the accessories – such as the alignment bolts of the reciprocating machine’s flywheel needing to be reworked due to poor concentricity, or cracks in the valve gland – does the construction party need a permit to address these problems, and are such tasks included in the equipment installation cost? 3. During the installation of large-scale units, when the civil engineering team carries out grouting and the installation team oversees the process, is a visa required? Please give some guidance, thank you! ! ! Answering the question raised by the original poster: 1. Regarding the issue of adjusting bolts for aligning the motor during installation, it is necessary to check whether the part diagrams in the equipment specifications indicate the presence of such adjustment bolts; if so, the equipment supplier should be contacted for assistance ; If not, it shall be resolved by the installation contractor themselves and should not be included in the visa. 2. During equipment installation, if certain equipment is not suitable or there are issues with the accessories, these should be dealt with separately. For example, simple problems such as misalignment of the flywheel positioning bolts in reciprocating machines, which requires reaming, should be resolved by the installation contractor themselves and should not be included in the visa requests. If there are cracks in the valve gland, the cause of those cracks must be analyzed, and the responsible party shall take accountability. 3. For the grouting work carried out by the civil engineering contractor, the owner’s quality inspection team and supervision personnel should be present to oversee the process, as civil engineering grouting is related to the overall quality of the structure. It is also appropriate for the installation contractor to supervise this process, and no visa is required. Please give some guidance, thank you! ! !
Reply #52010-05-17
The quota is the foundation; for me, the instructions related to the quota are more important than its price, yet many people do not read those instructions. The contract takes precedence over the quota; in cases where there are additional provisions in the contract, those provisions shall apply. My approach: 1. Foot bolts are consumable items; unless otherwise specified, you can simply purchase them and use them. If you determine that the cost of the foot bolts exceeds the costs associated with wasted labor, paper, documentation preparation, and the expenses related to dealing with the owner’s supervisor, and if there is evidence showing that the foot bolts are not part of your responsibilities, then you should negotiate for an adjustment to the invoice. 2. This issue is not merely a matter of cost; it also relates to potential quality risks in the future. It is recommended that all equipment-related quality problems be handed over to the owner for handling. If the construction contractor is required to address such problems, a warranty claim must be issued, and it should be clearly stated in that claim that the owner is requesting the contractor to make repairs due to equipment quality issues. Equipment with serious quality issues must under no circumstances be accepted! 3. Grouting by the civil engineering unit and supervision by the installation unit require no visa; this is included in the equipment installation.
Reply #62010-05-26
From a construction perspective, here are my thoughts: 1. A visa is required; this cost needs to be explained clearly to the owner, with the expense to be covered by the equipment manufacturer, reflected in the form of a visa; 2. The owner shall issue a coordination order to handle this matter; the gland of the gas valve should still be handled by the supplier. If the owner entrusts the construction unit and that unit has the capability to handle it, then a visa must be issued. Work volume alone will not result in any payment – instead, only labor costs and processing fees should be specified. For labor costs, the daily rate for each type of workmanship should be indicated (e.g., 150 for fitters, 60 for general workers, etc.), multiplied by the number of working days. Fixed labor rates cannot be used, otherwise you will suffer huge losses ; 3. Grouting does not require supervision

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