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Small-signal cutoff problem

2010-05-30View Original

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I saw that recently someone asked about small-signal rejection, and I realized that our engineering work hardly involves this aspect. Finding that strange, I asked some senior employees, and they said that our small-signal rejection is handled by the safety gate. However, when I checked the documentation related to the safety gate, it didn’t mention any function for small-signal rejection, nor was there any information on how much of the signal is rejected. It’s strange. Has anyone encountered a safety gate with such a function? Or is small-signal rejection handled elsewhere?
Reply #22010-05-31
Our low-flow cut-offs are all set in the header; I’ve never heard of a function called safety barrier
Reply #32010-05-31
This can also be achieved with software
Reply #42010-05-31
There are those that can be cut at the header, and then there are those that require using a computer software via a data cable for processing; the latter method yields better results. We have done this before – not sure if it would work well for you
Reply #52010-05-31
Many smart meters have built-in functionality for filtering out low-level signals; therefore, in less stringent applications, there is no need to add an additional filtering mechanism.
Reply #62010-05-31
It’s usually done by removing it from the header; I’ve never heard of it being done within the safety barrier
Reply #72010-05-31
When using an orifice plate for flow measurement, small-signal rejection is performed. But it’s all done within DCS, using software.
Reply #82010-05-31
Reply 1# zhuirvine: Small-signal rejection can often be achieved right in the header; if the signal enters the DCS, it can be removed through the configuration parameters.
Reply #92010-05-31
They are generally removed from the on-site form to ensure consistency and prevent confusion.
Reply #102010-05-31
Modern mainstream intelligent differential pressure flow transmitters all have a low-signal rejection function, which safety barriers are unable to provide. Based on practical maintenance experience, it is recommended to implement a small-signal rejection function in the DCS. Advantages: 1. It can accurately reflect the actual operating condition of the instrument. 2. It is possible to easily change the resection range in DCS. 3. It facilitates fault diagnosis.
Reply #112010-05-31
Only when the flow rate is proportional to the square root of the pressure difference. Only then does it make sense to remove the small signal.

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