I really hate it when people from industries other than design take the registered chemical engineer exam

What was said upstairs is a bit inappropriate: 1. **The specified examination requirements do not state that this exam is intended specifically for people in the design industry.**； In other words, as long as you have the ability, you can take the exam ； After being admitted, you won’t need to (you can learn a lot from the exams) ； Also, **it only requires that people in the design industry hold this certificate; it does not state that those who are not in the design industry cannot have it** ； 2. Many people from industries other than design possess stronger personal skills and higher competence than some designers; so what’s wrong with them entering the design industry after obtaining relevant certifications? ? ? 3. In today’s highly competitive society, those with abilities succeed; if you have the skills, why would you be afraid of having more competitors? ? ? True strong people enjoy competition; I don’t think you’re that kind of person. That’s all I have to say; I hope you’ll think it over! ! !

To add more: this exam does not require a stamp from a design firm; any organization can stamp the exam results. However, if you want to work in this industry after obtaining the certificate, you must register with a qualified organization. I remember that there was a guy on the forum who once called ** to ask about this issue; the answer was the same. It’s just that in some places now, it is required that one be from the design industry in order to take the exam. This isn’t **’s decision – it’s something that those places have imposed on their own. So, those who want to obtain this certificate should go to those places first and find out what the rules are. If taking the exam requires being from the design industry, then one needs to get a stamp from a design firm; if not, there’s no need for that. Thank you for those who agree with my view! !

This post was last edited by yiqingjie on 2010-6-5 08:09. Those who support the second floor – why can’t people who are not designers take the exam? There are no restrictions in the application requirements stating that people who are not designers cannot take the exam, right? What is the purpose of the original poster in asking this question? Do many people who are not in the design field take your spots in exams or even steal your jobs? In this society, the strong prevail and those who are more capable take precedence; many people who are not designers take these exams out of necessity. So why **implement a professional qualification system? The author’s understanding of this isn’t very clear! If you have the ability to obtain ten or eight certificates, it’s pointless to complain here. Don’t assume that those who are not designers can skip taking the exams, or that it’s possible to pass without really trying; professional qualification exams use a 100-point passing system, not a percentage-based one. I hope the original poster will become more realistic. My words might have been a bit harsh, but what the poster said is also unfair!

As long as the exams are fair, what does it matter if they’re part of the design industry? The original poster must be a professional; are they worried about failing when they’re not a professional?

Article 5: Those who have passed the basic examination and meet one of the following conditions may apply to take the professional examination: (1) Having obtained a doctoral degree in this field, and having accumulated at least 2 years of experience in chemical engineering design work； Or, after obtaining a doctoral degree in a related field, having worked in chemical engineering design for a total of 3 years. 　　(II) Having obtained a master’s degree in this field, with at least 3 years of cumulative experience in chemical engineering design work ； Or, after obtaining a master’s degree in a related field, having worked in chemical engineering design for a total of 4 years. 　　(III) Having obtained a double bachelor’s degree including this major, or having graduated from a graduate program in this field, and having accumulated at least 4 years of experience in chemical engineering design work ； Or obtain a double bachelor’s degree in a related field, or complete postgraduate studies, and have accumulated at least 5 years of experience in chemical engineering design work. 　　(IV) Having obtained a bachelor’s degree from a university that has passed the education assessment for this field, and having accumulated at least 4 years of experience in chemical engineering design work ； Or, after obtaining a bachelor’s degree from a university that has not passed the evaluation for education in this field, having worked in chemical engineering design for a total of 5 years ； Or possess a bachelor’s degree in a related field, with at least 6 years of experience in chemical engineering design work. 　　(5) Having obtained an associate degree in this field, with a total of 6 years of experience in chemical engineering design work ； Or, after obtaining an associate degree in a related field, having worked in chemical engineering design for a total of 7 years. Doesn’t this mean that one must work in chemical engineering design? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? And finally, proof of professional experience is required for registration, which indicates that you haven’t passed the basic tests; this certificate is meant specifically for designers. Many students also take part in this, and when it comes to applying for a specialized program, they try to cheat their way through it. Is that interesting? ? Don’t you find it shameless? ! Those students who have passed the exams use them to fake their qualifications, ultimately devaluing them – isn’t that harmful to our interests? ? ? You’re not designers; if you go to a design firm, will anyone hire you with just this certificate? ? ? ? ? ? It’s still used for affiliation purposes! Each field has its own expertise, but one must not be shameless! One shouldn’t be this shameless! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

This post was last edited by zhs831 on 2010-6-3 at 08:04. Staff in design institutes, due to their heavy design workload, have little time to read books. Now that many postgraduates take these exams in their spare time, how is it possible for them to pass when faced with such candidates? After all, half of the exam content relates to principles of chemical engineering and chemical thermodynamics. For those who have been working in design for over five years, it’s very difficult to pass these exams; in actual chemical engineering exams, only 30% of the content relates to design aspects, while a large portion is dedicated to principles of chemical engineering, chemical thermodynamics, and reaction engineering. It’s hard for design professionals with more than five years of experience to outperform those students. In our institute, less than half of the staff passed the basic exams. Out of 150 people working in chemical engineering design, only 10 passed the professional exams (excluding those who were awarded passes based on other criteria), which shows just how difficult these exams are. You’re not designers – aren’t you trying to take advantage of this to scam money? ? Can’t one even be despised? How shameless! I’ve only managed to cover the basics in my spare time from work; after all, I’m extremely busy with work, as I’m a full-time student

On the second floor, they also said to find an organization to stamp something; as for that proof of work experience, did you really do that work? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I’ve never seen such shamelessness – treating fraud as something honorable

There are also drawbacks to registering for exams these days; a person can obtain several certificates and then use them to fake qualifications, failing to serve the purpose for which they were intended. It’s no wonder the original poster is complaining

I support the original poster. But it’s understandable that college graduates face difficulties in finding jobs these days. In any case, if everyone takes these exams, it’s a waste of resources; ultimately, the value of these certificates will decline, and the role of registered chemical engineers will lose its meaning. Is it responsible toward oneself, corporate projects, and the general public if those who are not accountants take the CPA exam, or those not involved in civil engineering take structural engineering exams?

Only those who are designers can take this exam; it’s a **regulation**. There are also registered electrical engineers – if you look at them, they’re all from the same group, and this exam is meant specifically for us designers. Few non-designers who are registered electrical engineers try to cheat their way into taking this exam. I just don’t understand why, since it’s an exam related to design, more non-designers in the chemical industry try to take it ? And these non-designers also called me an idiot, damn it! It’s not something that was meant for you to take the exam on; for you to take it is this fair competition? As mentioned above, everyone in the country takes the CPA exam, and as a result, the value of this CPA credential will end up dropping to nothing!