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Is it possible for glyphosate manufacturers to purchase IDA for production?

2010-12-15View Original

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Currently, I have seen online that companies that do not produce glyphosate manufacture IDA and DSIDA. Is it possible for glyphosate-producing companies to purchase these products directly for use in their production? If not for glyphosate manufacturers, then what are these products used for?
Reply #22010-12-15
Actually, the original poster has a significant misunderstanding; these are just different names for various production routes of glyphosate. Currently, in China, Huaxing Chemical is the representative company for glyphosate produced using the IDA method, while Xinan Chemical is the representative for glyphosate produced via the glycine method. Monsanto, the world’s largest glyphosate producer, uses the IDA method. As for why most enterprises in our country use the glycine method, it is largely related to the country’s resource conditions – since China has limited oil reserves but abundant coal, and one of the main raw materials for the IDA method comes from petrochemical products.
Reply #32010-12-15
Reply to 2# jxjlhgwf: Thank you for your answer! Actually, I didn’t misunderstand. The foreign glyphosate giant Monsanto used to have companies produce DSIDA for it, and then it would purchase DSIDA to use in its production. It’s just that it’s estimated that no companies in China are doing this at the moment; however, there are indeed companies in China that produce IDA and DSIDA and sell them as products
Reply #42010-12-23
This is normal; solid IDA is indeed available from manufacturers, and we are now able to produce IDA solids with a high concentration as well. However, we still use it ourselves, employing double-effect evaporation to extract the IDA solid. Huaxing Chemical
Reply #52010-12-24
Reply to 4# yingmu85: Does Huaxing use IDA for the production of glyphosate and bisphosphonates? It’s normal to produce it oneself. The question is: what do those companies that do not produce glyphosate and AMPA themselves use their IDA for? Or to whom and for what purpose?
Reply #62011-01-03
High-purity IDA can be used in medicine, but in very small quantities
Reply #72011-02-26
Now, the technologies for producing glyphosate using various domestic raw materials and intermediates are already mature. Whether it is advantageous for IDA to produce glyphosate directly depends on the production cost per unit. At the moment, purchasing IDA is still quite costly.
Reply #82011-04-23
Yes, IDA and DSIDA are indeed available for purchase now; DSIDA is sold in larger quantities, mainly for use in the production of glyphosate. Because some companies have advanced technologies for bisphosphonate oxidation, there is still room for profit. IDA sales are also mainly used to produce glyphosate diammonium, which is then turned into glyphosate. The key is to measure the maximum value from a techno-economic perspective.

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