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What is the relationship between PMC and the supervisor?

2010-12-27View Original

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Can a project management company undertake both PMC management and supervision for the same project? How is management handled between them?
Reply #22010-12-27
The last edit to this post was made by Zhizhi Ming on 2010-12-27 at 10:10. The scope of work for supervision and PMC can be illustrated with a vivid metaphor: the relationship between points and planes. The working area of the PMC is a flat surface, quite wide ; The work of a supervisor is limited to a point (at most a line). There are project management companies that handle both PMC and EPC for the same project, but these tasks are carried out by two different teams. For example: AMEC on the SECCO project, S EI on the FIP project, and so on. Their management is under the unified oversight of IPMT.
Reply #32010-12-27
As mentioned on the first floor, \"a project management company can undertake both PMC management and supervision for the same project\" – I don’t think such a practice has ever been heard of before. Could it be the work of supervisors, carried out under the name of PMC? Nowadays, many supervision companies recruit a dozen or so people with certificates just to pretend to be project management companies.
Reply #42011-01-21
Supervision and PMC are two distinct concepts. The supervision system is a mandatory requirement established in accordance with construction regulations; it involves being directly employed by the project owner. The services provided by supervision companies include full-process supervision (starting from the design phase) and on-site construction supervision. Special qualifications are required to determine the type of work they are tasked with carrying out, such as civil engineering, petroleum, chemical industry, or power generation, among others ; The scope of PMC is relatively broad; it refers to a package of services for project management. The clients can be project owners, departments, general contractors, or large PMC contractors. There are no specific requirements regarding qualifications – design and consulting firms as well as construction companies can provide such services.
Reply #52013-07-17
http://3y.uu456.com/bp-81d409ecaeaad1f346933f0c-1.html Thoughts on the Two Project Management Models of Construction Supervision and PMC. On February 13, 2003, the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development of the People’s Republic of China (hereinafter referred to as the Ministry of Construction) issued a document titled “Guiding Opinions on Fostering and Developing Enterprises Specializing in General Contracting for Projects and Project Management” (hereinafter referred to as the “Guiding Opinions”). The introduction of the \"Guiding Opinions\" has sparked discussions within the supervision industry regarding the differences between construction project supervision and project management, as well as how construction project supervision can evolve into a project management-oriented enterprise. ““Project Management” can be translated literally as “project management”; its purpose is to provide efficient and high-quality project management services for project construction. In China’s construction industry, it has always been referred to as “construction supervision”. Construction supervision is a project management model for construction projects that was introduced from abroad in China over a decade ago, during the transition from a planned economy to a market economy. Its purpose is to introduce China’s construction industry into a market competition mechanism and socialized service management, thereby enabling the industry to develop in a healthier and more orderly manner. The training textbook for supervision engineers nationwide, \"Engineering Construction Supervision,\" defines construction supervision as follows: \"Engineering construction supervision refers to the micro-level oversight activities carried out by specialized engineering construction supervision units, in response to the socialization and professionalization of project construction. These units, entrusted and authorized by the project owner, conduct such oversight based on the approved project construction documents, as well as relevant laws, regulations, and project contracts, with the aim of achieving the objectives of the project investment.\" ”It can be seen from this that the objectives of both “construction supervision” and “Project Management” in our country are to provide owners with professional project management services. What are the reasons stated in the \"Guiding Opinions\" issued by the Ministry of Construction for promoting and encouraging China’s engineering construction supervision companies to develop and transform into project management companies? I believe the fundamental reason lies in the fact that the project management services provided by construction supervision companies in our country at the current stage for projects differ in focus from those provided by project management companies for projects. “The “Project Management Contract” (hereinafter referred to as PMC) can be literally translated as “contract-based management”; it refers to the situation in which a project management company, through a contractual relationship with the client, accepts the client’s entrustment and authorization to manage the construction project and provide professional project management services to the client. The Guidelines state that PMC-type project management requires entities to \"assume certain management risks and financial responsibilities as stipulated in the contract,\" which is quite different from our approach of engineering construction supervision. This increases the responsibilities of project management companies during the project management process, whereas construction supervisors generally bear supervisory duties throughout the construction of engineering projects ; In construction projects that adopt the PMC management model, the project management company can be regarded as the second entity responsible for project management – in other words, it acts as the \"minor owner\" in such construction projects. Throughout the entire project development process, the project management carried out by the owner remains the core of project management ; The Guidelines also state that \"for construction projects for which supervision is required by law, project management companies with the appropriate supervision qualifications can carry out project management on behalf of the owner; in such cases, the owner is not required to hire separate project supervisors. These project management companies exercise their supervision rights and assume oversight responsibilities in accordance with the law.\" The PMC-based project management model places greater emphasis on utilizing professional knowledge and extensive management experience to effectively manage the entire project and ensure its efficient operation. “When the “Project Management” (construction supervision) management model was first introduced to China, the country’s market economy system was not yet well-developed; it was in the process of transitioning from a planned economy system to a market-oriented economy system. The purpose of introducing socialized management at that time was to explore ways for the transformation of the socio-economic system and to achieve better investment returns for projects. Construction project supervision is a management activity carried out on a project upon the entrustment and authorization by the owner. At the initial stage of introducing construction supervision, in order to ensure the safety of investment funds for construction projects as well as their rational and effective use, and to improve the quality of these projects and accelerate their completion, owners placed more emphasis when entrusting and authorizing such supervision on its role in enhancing the overall quality of the project and speeding up its progress, rather than on its ability to manage the project as a whole. This has led to the current characteristics of China’s supervision industry: project supervision is primarily a form of micro-level oversight carried out in accordance with existing laws and regulations, project contracting agreements, and approved design documents. The introduction of construction project supervision has achieved great success in China’s economic development, playing a significant role in improving project quality and accelerating project timelines. After initial successes, in order to further accelerate the establishment of a market economy system, transform the role of **within the market economy, and enhance the quality of construction projects, China began to enforce the use of construction supervision. The sudden surge in demand for supervision in the market has led to a large influx of human, material, and financial resources into the supervision industry, resulting in the establishment of numerous supervision companies in a short period of time ; The huge market makes it easy for supervision companies to survive; as a result, more of these companies focus on dividing up the existing market rather than improving their own capabilities and standards ; The high turnover rate and job instability among supervision personnel also severely hinder the sustainable development of supervision companies in our country. Despite years of development, China’s supervision industry, just like its automotive industry, has failed to produce large-scale project management companies of international standard. As China’s market economy system continues to improve, and especially with the entry of large foreign project management companies following China’s accession to the WTO, market competition will become increasingly fierce. If supervision companies in our country are to survive in competition and achieve long-term development, they must improve their management skills and capabilities for the projects they undertake, rather than merely carrying out simple, repetitive process oversight. Therefore, it is both an inevitable consequence of history and of a market economy that these supervision companies transform into project management firms.
Reply #62013-07-17
The models of project management include the owner managing the project themselves (Owner Project Management), entrusting a project management company to manage it on behalf of the owner (PMC), and forming an integrated project management team composed of the owner and the project management company’s staff (IPMT), among others. http://www.jdzj.com/hot/article/2006-11-24/10379-1.htm The pipeline in Sudan’s Zone 6 starts from the Fulah oil field in southwestern Sudan and ends at the terminal station of the Khartoum refinery; it has a total length of 715 km and a diameter of 610 mm. Along its length, there is a starting station, 4 intermediate stations, an ending station, and 13 valve rooms. A consortium composed of Langwei Supervision Company and the Canadian company VECO won the bid for the project management consulting (PMC) services for this project. The Sudan Fulah Oil Field crude oil export pipeline project/PMC project is the first PMC project awarded to the Pipeline Bureau since its establishment. The project scope includes conceptual design, pipeline survey, preliminary design, preparation of EPC tender documents, project management, supervision of procurement over long periods, procurement oversight, EPC bidding process management, supervision of detailed design, and on-site construction supervision, among others……
Reply #72013-07-18
"Engineering supervision is, to a large extent, a form of micro-level oversight carried out in accordance with current laws and regulations, project contracting agreements, and approved design documents. I fully agree with this view.
Reply #82013-07-19
In domestic projects, a project management company is responsible for PMC and construction supervision.

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