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Seeking help with the design of straight edges on container flanges

2022-09-28View Original

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Question 1: For container flanges according to the standards of NB47023, with dimensions DN2200 PN1.0 as shown in Figure A, the thickness of the butt-welded cylinder is 14; based on Appendix 3, the corrected model is (FM DN2200-1.0/112-220). I would like to ask what type of straight edge section should be used for the flange? B, C, D? Question 2: In the GB150 flange types, for the integral flange shown in Figure 7-1, when is the e type used and when is the f type used? Is it related to the flange structure in Figure 7-2 (the C-1 butt-welded flange joint type)?
Reply #22022-09-28
Let me answer the first question: According to the standard definition, it should be thinned according to Figure C, but there is a slight issue with your diagram. You can thin it down to 17 mm; there’s no need to go down to 14 mm. Of course, if you thin it to 14 mm, I don’t think that’s a problem either.
Reply #32022-09-28
I think none of these three options are correct. Initially, one end was 32 and the other was 14, giving a total length of 88; after extension, it’s still 32 on one end and 14 on the other, but the length becomes 108. . . . It’s a very simple thing
Reply #42022-09-29
You’re right; I checked again and found that for NB47020, the trimming is done by adding 3 to the thickness of the cylinder.
Reply #52022-09-29
This post was last edited by wanlirn on 2022-9-29 09:05; it fails to meet the minimum thickness requirement for the connecting cylinder, and there is a connection with the thinning and roughness – it’s a misunderstanding. . You haven’t understood the intended purpose of the standards; in simple terms, the strength of the flange itself requires additional contribution from the thickness of the cylinder, which is why the standards specify a minimum thickness for the joints. If this requirement cannot be met, the high neck is lengthened, thereby indirectly increasing the thickness of the cylinder
Reply #62022-09-29
This post was last edited by wanlirn on 2022-9-29 09:14. Question 2: In the GB150 flange types, for the integral flange shown in Figure 7-1, when is the e type used (where the pipe fitting and the flange are integrated as one unit; this is different from a flange that is itself an integral unit – the small-diameter pipe fittings of type e are similar to those of type IF in HG20592), and when is the f type used (for larger diameters, where the pipe fitting is connected to the flange by welding; compared to type e, there is no fundamental difference other than cost)? Is it related to the flange structure in Figure 7-2 (the C-1 butt-welded flange joint type)? (No, it is not related.) You still need to know and understand the models used for flange calculations; otherwise, you will still encounter problems in other areas. . .
Reply #72022-10-11
Thank you so much; your explanation was very detailed. Learn from seniors more*:D

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