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Discussion on the effects of proportional and integral terms in PID control

2018-04-26View Original

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Hello everyone! I’ve been reading about the tuning of PID parameters recently, and it was mentioned that when making a step change in the setpoint: 1. If only proportional action is involved, then this proportional action will cause a sudden change in the output ; 2. If only integration is present, then the output will not undergo a step change. The first sentence is easier to understand, but the second one is not so easy. Why doesn’t the integral effect cause a step change in the output? My understanding is that there still is a step change in the output, and it starts from that point, after which the output increases or decreases. I hope to exchange ideas with all the experts here.
Reply #22018-04-26
Assuming that only the PI effect is present, and the PV and SV values are equal, i.e., E=0, then the change in output is 0. If a step test is performed on SV at this time, then E changes. In the case of an incremental PID algorithm, under proportional action, the change in output is Kd*(E(n) – E(n-1)) = kd*E(n). Similarly, under integral action, the change in output is KI*E(n). If KI is greater than Kd, then the effect of integral action can even be greater than that of proportional action.
Reply #32018-04-27
The existing control laws do not have pure integration; they only have proportional-integral or proportional-integral-derivative control. Under proportional-integral control, when a step change occurs, the output jumps first, and starting from this point, the output then increases or decreases.
Reply #42018-04-27
In practical applications, integration and proportion are used together, that is, the proportional-integral action. Pure integration does not cause a step change in the output, because the output of integration is a straight line whose slope depends on the integration rate. In proportional-integral control, when there is a step change in the error, the step change (vertical increase) in the controller’s output is the result of the proportional action; starting from this point, the output then increases or decreases gradually, which is the result of the integral action.

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