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Is the selection of safety valves part of the process engineering field or the instrumentation field?

2018-09-07View Original

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Dear marine friends: Those involved in process engineering and process system design are surely familiar with the calculation of safety valve discharge capacity as well as the selection of such valves. When I was in the design institute, the calculation and selection of safety valves were basically carried out by the process engineering team. Now, at another engineering company that specializes in foreign projects, I’ve found that it’s the instrumentation and automation team responsible for selecting safety valves Moreover, I have read the technical specifications of many large overseas engineering companies, and the calculations for selecting safety valves are also specified in the design guidelines for the instrumentation and automation field This confuses me a bit... Which department is responsible for your safety valves?
Reply #22018-09-07
We still rely on process calculations; safety valves are always a problematic aspect in such processes. It would be good if the automation system could be modified
Reply #32018-09-07
That’s true indeed; considering the process parameters, regarding leakage volume, that’s already a pretty good figure. When it comes to selection, there are many parameters such as the flow coefficient, and these concepts are similar to those used in the selection of control valves, orifice plates, etc... Thankfully, nowadays the selection process is handled by the instrumentation specialists, hahaha
Reply #42018-09-07
In domestic design institutes, the calculation and selection of safety valves are handled by the process engineering department, while in foreign engineering companies, this task falls to the instrumentation and automation department. It’s just a difference in standard practices; by following international standards, things become easier to handle!
Reply #52018-09-07
I had never seen such a concept before, but once I did, it seemed reasonable to me. I want to say that \"Process Instruments is one entity\"; it is unreasonable for the two entities to be separated within the domestic division of labor. The responsibility lies not only with the companies but also with universities (research institutes), as well as within China’s current corporate culture.
Reply #62018-09-08
In domestic engineering companies and design institutes, it is usually the process or materials specialists who are responsible for making the selection, while abroad it is mostly the instrumentation specialists who handle this task. Condition analysis and calculation are tasks specific to the process engineering field.
Reply #72019-02-27
Safety valves definitely fall under the category of process-related elements; instruments are only responsible for automatic control
Reply #82019-02-28
The design and selection of safety valves are handled by the process engineering department.
Reply #92019-02-28
Currently, in China, it is generally the process engineering, or more precisely, the process system, that is responsible for calculating safety valves. If the instrument is to do it, then who will propose the conditions? It’s still a process or process system; once all the conditions are specified, all that remains is calculation, and it’s the same for everyone. The key to selecting a safety valve lies in defining various operating conditions, and in this regard, instruments don’t have as thorough an understanding of the process as the engineering design itself. Abroad, the selection is determined by the instrumentation team; in fact, it mainly comes down to the division of labor between the two specialties, with certain tasks related to process systems being handled by the instrumentation team. For example: flow restriction orifice plates – some of these are also classified as instruments, but in China they are generally calculated as part of the process system.
Reply #102019-02-28
Previously, the calculations related to safety valves were carried out by the process engineering team, and the selection of safety valves also fell within their responsibility. At that time, the company had samples of safety valves, and the selection was made based on those samples
Reply #112019-02-28
The process has nothing to do with instruments; it does not require the involvement of instrument technicians

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