HCBBS Forum (English)
Submit Chemical Projects / Find Solutions
Amplify Your Requirements on a Broader Chemical Platform *Engineering · Technology · Equipment · Solutions*
Submit Request

The work of the design institute

2018-07-30View Original

Thread Content

Hello everyone, I am an instrumentation engineer at a chemical plant. I have just been transferred to a new chemical project, and the project manager asked me to go to the design institute to work with them. It’s my first day at work today; I sat there stupidly in front of the office computer, not knowing what to do. I would like to ask the experts from various design firms for advice on what I should do and how to establish a good relationship with them. Will it be helpful for future projects? ? ?
Reply #22018-07-30
Topics to be discussed include the drawing plans, instrument selection, the layout of control rooms and operation rooms throughout the plant, the signal integration between electrical and instrumentation systems, the signal connection between SIS and DCS, and many other detailed aspects.
Reply #32018-07-30
This post was last edited by qugd on 2018-7-30 at 11:37. Why not ask the masters around you? The craftsmen around you are most likely to know what you need to do It’s a bit odd to go the extra distance just to ask people here. Are you particularly introverted? First, consult the project manager or the relevant experts to understand an overview of the project. Then, learn about the specific tasks involved in your field of work from the professionals you are currently working with or assisting. Finally, ask those who are in charge of you or your colleagues about your exact scope of duties and responsibilities. Look at the big picture to understand the overall situation, and focus on the details to take action. Below the nose is the mouth, which is not only used for eating but also, more importantly, for saying polite words to ask the master what to do.
Reply #42018-07-30
It’s pretty comprehensive; that’s roughly all there is. You also need to take into account the installation conditions on site in terms of the manufacturing process. If you end up dealing with an unreliable supplier, just the materials alone will give you a lot to deal with
Reply #52018-07-30
The original poster is already an instrumentation engineer – why do they still ask such a question? This is something an apprentice would ask.
Reply #62018-07-30
He probably got there through connections; it seems he never did any actual work before.
Reply #72018-07-30
I fully understand the poster’s confusion, as project management is a different field from production management or maintenance management; their tasks are entirely different, so it’s necessary to start learning from scratch. If the project has just entered the design phase and your company operates in a structured manner, first, please draft the \"Uniform Regulations for Instrument Design.\" This document should include: 1. Provisions regarding the selection and configuration of control systems within the project, as well as the relationship between control systems and management systems. 2. It is necessary to establish basic principles for the selection of various instruments based on the actual conditions of the project and the standard practices followed by your company in terms of instrument selection, so as to prevent the design team from deviating too much from the owner’s standards, which could lead to issues such as unfamiliarity with the equipment during use and an increase in the need for spare parts. 3. Specify the owner’s requirements regarding instrument installation, such as the use of junction boxes, protective tubes, valves, and the selection and application of gaskets for protective tubes. 4. The list and level of detail provided in the technical documents (subject to the terms of the design contract; minor deviations can be discussed and accommodated if necessary). In short, this document serves as a guiding document for the design and selection of instrumentation systems in this project; it fully reflects the technical requirements of the client. As long as it complies with relevant standards, the design institute generally will not object to it. 5. The layout of the control room and cabinet room is generally the responsibility of the general layout team, with the instrumentation team providing requirements and participating in the discussions; you should put forward your principle requirements regarding internal and external aspects as well as supporting facilities. II. On the premise of reaching an agreement on the aforementioned provisions, it is necessary to understand the overall project schedule, so as to establish a timeline, a list of deliverables, and the required level of detail for the technical documents related to instrumentation, thereby ensuring proper ordering in the early stages and smooth construction later on. III. Agree on the requirements and timeline for delivering the design conditions, as well as the method of delivery (electronic version, paper format), etc., to meet the design needs. IV. Discuss solutions to problems more frequently with the designers; do not act in a dictatorial manner. Good personal relationships are the foundation for carrying out work in the future. (Keep in mind some of the designer’s ideas and suggestions; they shouldn’t be completely rejected.) V. Complete other specific tasks assigned by the leadership, such as arranging the schedule for intermediate review meetings, etc. There is a lot of content; it requires long-term accumulation and practice, as well as careful reflection, in order to truly become proficient and do it well. I hope this helps!
Reply #82018-07-31
The key issue is that this design institute is very strange. I don’t know if all design institutes are like this or just this one. They are particularly reluctant to communicate with others; they just focus on drawing. Others say that there’s no need for communication or interaction, as it’s a waste of time. All you need to do is provide us with various parameters, and we’ll handle the design
Reply #92018-07-31
Thank you for your suggestion. It turns out I started from the grassroots level. Due to the rapid development of our factory, I was fortunate enough to participate in the construction and production of two new facilities. Previously, at the factory, I would take over once all the design drawings were ready; if anything wasn’t appropriate, we would communicate directly with the design institute and make the necessary changes. Suddenly, when I arrive at the design institute, I don’t know where to start. Actually, we’ve almost finished all our drawings. I didn’t start working on the design from the very beginning
Reply #102018-07-31
Communication with the design institute at this stage came a bit late; needless to say, the professionals at the design institute are busy preparing the drawings and will not be able to communicate with you any further. Imagine if changes to the drawings are required after discussions – that would only delay the delivery of the drawings, affecting both bonuses and reputation. In fact, staying at the design institute at this stage holds little practical value; it’s better to obtain a list of materials along with layout diagrams of the trough boxes (in electronic format) to prepare and submit the first batch of materials required for a long-term project, in order to get the installation work underway as soon as possible. Other issues will be addressed when the official drawings arrive at the factory for review. Anyway, the big problems can’t be solved at this point; the small ones can be dealt with when there’s time.
Reply #112018-07-31
You had better study the feasibility study, safety assessment, and environmental impact assessment first

Submit a Project

**Looking for Chemical Technology, Equipment & Solutions?** No Registration Required Broader Platform Exposure | Global Chemical Service Provider Connections

Submit Request — Free Consultation

Disclaimer

This is an automated machine translation of the original thread. Some technical terms may have inaccuracies; the original text shall prevail. Click "View Original" at the top right to access the source page, which supports IP-based automatic real-time language translation. Please watch out for contact details and sales inducements to prevent fraud. All content and translations are for reference only, representing solely the poster's personal views. For enquiries, email service@hcbbs.com.