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Flow zero-point correction and small-signal cutoff point of electromagnetic flowmeters

2018-10-24View Original

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Dear experts, I’m a complete novice when it comes to instrumentation. I would like to ask: for an electromagnetic flowmeter in a full-bore, stationary state, a flow value is displayed. I found that it’s possible to set the reading to zero by means of zero-point adjustment or small-signal rejection. What is the difference between these two methods? Does it affect the accuracy of flow measurement?
Reply #22018-10-24
The zero-point correction is equivalent to resetting the system’s zero point, while small-signal rejection is merely a technical measure that prevents signals below a certain level from being displayed. It has no impact on the accurate measurement of the flow meter
Reply #32018-10-24
Zero-point correction is used to adjust the physical zero offset of the instrument itself. Small-signal rejection is like holding back feces without flushing and then covering the toilet lid – it’s putting a bandage on a wound; it’s deceiving oneself, others, and the whole world. The measurement accuracy becomes as poor as that of feces, as if it’s been crudely covered up. Do you understand? Mara Gobide.
Reply #42018-10-24
Thank you to both experts for their answers. Let me explain my specific situation: I have 3 flow meters, 2 of which are installed on 2 branch pipes, while 1 is installed on the main pipe. The flow meter on the main pipe shows a certain flow value when the fluid is at rest; I applied a zero-point correction to eliminate this issue. However, I found that the flow rate measured by the meter on the main pipe was still 60 m3/h higher than the sum of the flow rates from the branch pipes. After contacting the manufacturer, they advised me to set the zero-point correction value for the meter on the main pipe to 0 (it was previously set at +42). With this setting, the FS value became -66. I also enabled the low-signal cutoff function, and after doing so, I noticed that the flow rate measured by the meter on the main pipe was still 20 m3/h higher than that of the branch pipes. How should I adjust these settings? Also, I read in the instructions that the zero-point measurement value FS should be 0, but this is quite different from the FS value of the flow meter on the main pipe. Is there a problem with this?
Reply #52018-10-24
1. A flow meter is a dynamic measuring instrument; when the flow rate drops to a certain level, the measurement equation used in its programming is no longer valid. This is significantly different from instruments that are static in nature, such as pressure gauges. . . Those guys from the flow meter manufacturing company really are awful; they don’t explain things clearly to you. Instead, they write the measurement range of the flow meter as 0~X. . . To put it more bluntly, many flowmeters have a measurement dead zone, or what is also called a measurement uncertainty zone, or a zone of measurement ambiguity. . . So, the inaccurate zero point of the flow meter should be regarded as a zero offset, but I’m not sure if that’s the right approach Perhaps the meter is still within its normal operating range, with no deviation yet.....
Reply #62018-10-24
2. There are three flow meters, and the sum of the readings from the main meter and the sub-meters does not match. This kind of thing is too common. A few days ago, a member of the community specifically posted a question regarding this matter. The so-called accuracy of flow meters can be considered nothing more than a gimmick; it’s best not to take it too seriously.
Reply #72018-10-24
3. For the three flowmeters, don’t zero or calibrate them yet. Apply small signal rejection to all of them; don’t set the rejection level too low. Then compare the value shown on the main gauge with that on the sub-gauges to see how much the difference is. Adjust the zero-setting of the main gauge accordingly until the values are close to each other. 4. Strictly speaking, this shouldn’t be called debugging – it’s more like making adjustments arbitrarily to get the values to match. Anyway, the manufacturer can’t do much to help you; just make things up and get the work done, that’s it.
Reply #82018-10-24
Everyone explained things very well; I learned a lot
Reply #92018-10-25
Try to avoid making zero-point adjustments if possible. To put it another way, if you do make such adjustments, the final result will only become more chaotic. It’s better to simply remove low-level signals in a uniform manner; for example, if the supervisor requires values below 1, the person in charge of that aspect should do the same

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