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How many work permits are required for blind plate opening and closing operations?

2020-07-06View Original

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Our company now combines blocking and unblocking in one ticket, that is, one blind plate and one work order. But last time, the experts suggested issuing a work order for plugging the blind flange, and another work order when removing it. 30871 also didn’t specify how many work orders needed to be issued. Which one do you think is more reasonable?
Reply #22020-07-06
This post was last edited by Shutong on 2020-7-7 at 00:24. It isn’t up to anyone to decide whether something is reasonable or not; the standards GB 30871-2014 \"Safety Regulations for Special Operations in Chemical Production Units\" should be followed. These standards do not specify how many permits are required for blind plate installation and removal operations. The AQ 3027-2008 \"Safety Regulations for Blind Plate Installation and Removal Operations in Chemical Production Units\" states that it is advisable to use one permit per blind plate. 7 Management of the \"Safety Permit for Blind Plate Installation and Removal Operations\": 7.1 The permits shall be issued by the production workshop (branch factory); the format is shown in Appendix A. 7.2 For blind plate removal and installation operations, a management system of one blind plate per operation permit is recommended. 7.3 It is strictly prohibited to alter or lend the Work Permit arbitrarily. When the position of the blind flanges is changed or the number of blind flanges is increased or decreased, a new Work Permit must be obtained. 7.4 The “Work Permit” shall be filled out by the production workshop (branch factory), confirmed by the person in charge of the blind plate removal and installation work, and approved by the unit’s production department. 7.5 The approved \"Work Permit\" shall be issued in two copies, one for the unit responsible for performing the blind plate removal and installation tasks and one for the production workshop (branch factory); the production workshop (branch factory) is responsible for archiving it, and the permit must be retained for at least 1 year. A blind flange work permit is usually in triplicate, but there are also versions in duplicate. It seems the poster has run into another former soldier who has switched to working in safety supervision: lol. I suggest the poster study the AQ 3027-2008 Safety Regulations for Blind Flange Opening and Closing Operations in Chemical Production Units together with him, twice. How annoying! Why are there inspectors everywhere like this?
Reply #32020-07-07
If drawing and blocking are not consecutive tasks carried out at the same time, people who are principle-oriented will consider them to be two separate tasks. Under such a logic, it makes sense to assign one ticket per step; this has nothing to do with right or wrong, nor with any standards or regulations – it’s simply a matter of perspective, understanding, and interpretation. If pumping and blocking are consecutive operational activities carried out at the same time, then one procedure is sufficient to meet compliance requirements. Pumping and blocking aren’t particularly complicated tasks.
Reply #42020-07-07
This can be analyzed from the format of the work order; such orders have columns for \"pulling\" and \"blocking.\" Since one work order is assigned to each task, it is recommended to complete all tasks using a single work order in order to avoid omissions. When performing the \"blocking\" action, the approval process must be followed, and when performing the \"pulling\" action, the confirmation procedure must be carried out as well. This ensures that each task is handled from start to finish. Using separate orders goes against the purpose of the work order template and increases the risk of omissions.
Reply #52020-07-09
One for drawing and one for blocking. Sometimes the blockage occurs in 2019, while the extraction takes place in 2020. Just arranged
Reply #62020-07-12
Can time change the number of work orders? Can the management regulations be changed? Please show me your organization’s regulations regarding the management of these two tickets; I’d like to learn from them: lol
Reply #72020-07-13
I mean, what if this blind plate was blocked ten years ago? Would we have to find the tickets from ten years ago and draw from them? Sure, let’s get another one
Reply #82020-07-17
One ticket is sufficient; it can also serve as a reminder to the production staff when the ticket has not yet been closed. **Suggestions from experts are not mandatory – they can be accepted or ignored
Reply #92020-07-18
This can be based on **standards, and companies can also establish their own more detailed and stringent requirements. However, if law enforcement agencies want to impose penalties, they must do so based on **standards**.
Reply #102020-10-22
Check whether climbing is involved; if so, a climbing permit is also required

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