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Where does the starting point for the distance between Class A installations and the fence begin?

2015-09-08View Original

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Two questions: 1. According to the petrochemical regulations, the distance between Class A facilities and the surrounding wall should be 25 meters. In the appendix, the starting and ending points of the facility are defined as the outermost edge of the equipment or the outermost axis of the building. Does this outer edge of the equipment count as energy pipelines such as those for transporting fluids or steam? Do the operation platforms and ladders used for ascending and descending from these platforms also count? 2. The distance between the equipment tank cluster and the enclosure wall: According to the explanatory text, the center line of the fire dike is used as the starting and ending point for determining this distance. It is unclear whether this should be based on the outer wall of the tanks or the center line of the fire dike; there is a need for a legal basis for this, as the project requires safety reviews
Reply #22015-09-08
Starting from the location of this external valve or safety valve, check the standards again
Reply #32015-09-08
1. Process equipment – refers to the outer edge of the equipment or the outermost axis of a building. The outermost axis of a building is easy to understand; the term \"equipment edge\" denotes equipment that is installed outdoors or in an open-type factory. Pipes, operation platforms for equipment, and ladders used for ascending and descending within such open-type factories should not be considered as starting or ending points. 2. The starting and ending points for the storage tanks throughout the plant are the outer walls of those tanks, whereas for the tank groups in the facility, the starting and ending points are the centerline of the fire dike; this is what differs from the starting and ending points of the storage tanks in the entire plant. The explanatory notes and the provisions in the standards have equal legal effect. For reference only.
Reply #42015-09-08
Personal opinion: In the on-site inspections of safety facility designs that I have been involved in, experts, as a precaution, generally start measuring from the outer edge of the equipment attachments and go all the way to the outer edge of the building. As for the safety distance, stricter standards are applied in actual use. So the situation referred to by the original poster might not reach 25m.
Reply #52015-09-09
Is there any specific regulation for this, or is it based on expert opinions? In that case, it will vary from one expert to another
Reply #62015-09-09
I suggest you take another look at the explanatory notes attached to the architectural design standards. The regulations state things quite clearly, but there can be some discrepancies in practice. Sometimes, out of caution, experts insist on their own opinions, which is quite normal – after all, it’s about finding common ground while respecting differences: lol. This is also a characteristic unique to China.

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