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Regarding the signature requirement for pressure pipeline design

2018-11-24View Original

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Yesterday, a manager brought in a set of pressure pipeline drawings prepared by someone else and asked me to sign them; I refused. He then said, \"Didn’t you attend the pressure pipeline training organized by our company?\" I said I wasn’t familiar with this project and that it wouldn’t be appropriate for me to sign; later he turned to other colleagues. When our company applied for the GB2 and GC2 pressure pipeline design qualifications, during the training, only I and one other person held design roles; the other six people did not have such roles. I have a few questions for everyone: 1. Is the person who signs in the design section when actually working on a project necessarily someone who has received training on pressure pipelines? And does it have to be the design position reported at the time of participating in the training? I don’t see any such requirement specified in the regulations regarding special equipment and the qualifications of pressure pipeline designers; I believe that colleagues who have experience in designing pressure pipelines for over N years can sign off on the design documents. 2. Others also say that official company documents and corresponding approval procedures are required in this regard; I didn’t find any mention of this in the company’s regulations for pressure pipeline design. Does the company need to carry out this work? What are the specific procedures and formats? 3. The design management in our company is in a very chaotic state; often, managers use our employees’ electronic signatures without permission or give us others’ drawings to sign. How does everyone deal with this?
Reply #22018-11-24
Design 1: Training for design and proofreading is optional; if one does not attend it, they will need to take an exam when the company needs to renew the certificate, and usually the reviewer is required to attend
Reply #32018-11-24
1. The signature should be made by someone who has completed training on pressure pipelines; it’s not necessary for that person to hold a design role. 2. Official documents with an official header are indeed needed, in order to specify which people are authorized to carry out design work, which ones can handle verification tasks, and which ones can perform audits. 3. In this case, it’s better not to sign. If you’re worried about offending your supervisors, you can carefully examine the drawings to see if there are any aspects that do not comply with the standards; if everything is fine, then signing isn’t necessarily a problem
Reply #42018-11-24
2. The design, verification, and approval processes are all to be authorized by the company; the procedure is relatively simple. The company’s technical supervisor in charge of pressure pipelines, usually someone with a senior professional title, issues the authorization document, stamps it with the company’s HR seal, and it is then circulated internally. When renewing the certificate, someone will conduct a review to ensure everything is in order
Reply #52018-11-24
3. Do not sign casually; nowadays, one is held responsible for life’s work. When the boss approaches you to sign, if an accident occurs, he will definitely shift the blame onto you – it will be your fault. Really
Reply #62018-11-24
If you really can’t get someone to help, check the drawings by yourself to ensure safety
Reply #72018-11-24
What’s being presented here is a sulfuric acid diagram; they get the money, and I don’t receive any compensation even after signing, so in such cases I usually refuse to sign.
Reply #82018-11-24
The manager in our company who is in charge of pressure pipelines hasn’t even attended any training; he’s not familiar with many of the relevant procedures. I’m really impressed
Reply #92018-11-25
If there’s no accident, then it’s fine; but if an accident occurs, things get complicated. It’s a matter of taking a gamble based on probability, for both the company and the individual
Reply #102018-11-26
Yes, the company doesn’t have any procedures regarding pressure pipeline work
Reply #112018-11-27
It is assumed that review personnel should all have an internal designation within the company, and designers do not need to attend training on pressure pipelines

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